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just hope radios for the masses Atlanta

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Bissell in July 1947 the Army Air Force

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was announced that are flying this

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person found and is now in the

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possession of the are a gaming rig

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changes in gauge I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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fade to black with your host Kimmy

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church on the game changer radio network

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you helped to the year 1985

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you're missing a spoke to drag with

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was

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yeah man fade to black

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bespoke radio for the masses today is

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Wednesday May 3rd 122 days into the new

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year just 243 days left we are live from

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a bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States is there

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until there to and fro back and forth up

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and down east and west north and south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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the planet I'm your host Amy Church

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what is cracking everybody happy happy

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paranormal day did you know there was

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one this is national paranormal day here

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you go it's our day today paranormal day

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now did you know 45 percent of Americans

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believe in ghosts 35 percent of

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Americans have seen a ghost

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19 percent don't believe it all right so

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that that adds up to 89 percent where's

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the other or is the other no wait a

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45:35 that's 80 19 that's 99 okay I get

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it I get it close enough ninety percent

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of Americans are scared of the

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paranormal 15 percent of Americans like

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to watch ghost shows on television

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twelve percent of Americans think the

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government's know more about aliens that

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it's letting on and four percent of

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Americans think their house is haunted

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where does that leave us okay

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this show the

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listeners right now those numbers

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although 45% I get that 35% of Cena goes

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feels right 19% of Americans say they

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don't believe I think that number is

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high but there you go

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all right I get it you know 90% of

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Americans are scared of the paranormal

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so you take that 35 and 45 that you know

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that adds up to 80 so I guess that major

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chunk that believe in ghosts and have

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seen a ghost are scared of ghosts and

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the paranormal very interesting numbers

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but 4% of Americans think that their

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house is haunted

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I gotta go higher than that I'm thinking

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can't you know I'm thinking like 90%

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right doesn't everybody think there's

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are houses on it and every your

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grandparents 100% of the grandparents in

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this country 100% will tell you they

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have a ghost in their house 110 nobody's

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going to tell you that they don't you

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know I don't know where that 4% comes

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from either that or it's just you know

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you lie in a pole oh that would be new

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but he's lying a paranormal pole there's

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something wrong with that tonight on the

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show finishing up our amazing women week

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right here on fade to black

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our guest is Trisha Eastman and we're

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going to discuss biohacking and

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mind-body integration with DMT iboga and

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ayahuasca and other other elements out

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there yes now out of all of the shows

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that we've done out of out of all of the

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requests that have come in this show

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tonight has been number one everybody

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wants an ayahuasca show everybody who's

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I mean I get a DMT request every single

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day so does Rita so and we had to put

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the right thing together at the right

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time so that's what's going to happen

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tonight with Trisha very excited about

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this in our little bunker cam intro I

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stated and I'm honest about

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I'm interested in the subject for a lot

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of different reasons we'll discuss all

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of those tonight with Tricia but I am

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not condoning or advocating anything but

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yet I'm curious does that make sense

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all right look I come from the music

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industry and it seems like lifetimes ago

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now but when you when you when you go

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through things like the 80s and the

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Sunset Strip in the 80s and you live the

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life that I have and I'm cool I'm cool

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with it I am but I need to be very

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careful in in the show like this so just

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listen listen to the advice I collect

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the knowledge and and move forward how

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to do or any of this it is such a weird

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part of the world this the stuff that

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goes on in Ecuador and Costa Rica and

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Peru and you know South and Central

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America and n and shamans and who man

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it's crazy right it's crazy so I'm

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curious am I going to jump on a plane to

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Costa Rica tomorrow uh maybe after this

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show but again I'm not condoning

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anything let's just have an open mind

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tonight

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I'm very interested and we've talked

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about it so much in the show with so

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many different researchers and and

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authors about this I've had many guests

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over the house with Rita that have

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talked about it and it just you know it

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gets your mind going so there's

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something to it and I think science

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needs to jump in now and start to

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investigate so that's what we're going

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to do tonight biohacking

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and mind-body integration with DMT and

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boga and ayahuasca there you go our

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guest tonight is Trisha Eastman

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Twilight's another fainter night and do

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okay email throughout the show Jimmy

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Jimmy Torrio calm got some breaking news

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here another unarmed intercontinental

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ballistic missile an ICBM has been

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launched from Vandenberg that's the

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second Minuteman 3 launch in seven days

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shot it back over 4,200 miles to a test

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range near the Marshall Islands

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basically the same thing that we did

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last week what is going on here Iran

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tested a missile today or an attempted

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one off of a mini sub of which you know

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it's a little tiny reminds me of

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Gilligan's Island I just said Gilligan's

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Island twice in two days remember that

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little mini meaty submarine with the

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Japanese Navy dude on a classic episode

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of Gilligan's Island little mini sub and

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they're trying to launch cruise missiles

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off of this thing and North Korea has

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got a bunch of these little mini subs

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too you know when you hear North Korea's

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got you know 100 submarines

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70 submarines you know they don't have

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70 of the ohio-class nuclear subs not

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when they have they've got a ton of n of

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these mini subs and most of them don't

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even run so that's that's the story

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there little tiny little guys and I

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don't know how you get a cruise missile

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on that thing but the attempted launch

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failed today so here we have Iran North

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Korea in the United States just just

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flexing muscles it's trippy absolutely

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light in Irvine California down in

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there for the Margo Mateus book signing

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her book has just been released freed by

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your fate or not and you're really cool

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and and you think you're cool enough

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maybe you'll get to hang out at the

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after party alright there you go

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contacting the deserts coming up coming

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I can't believe it today's the third is

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coming up in the 19 so we're officially

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two weeks away yeah two weeks from

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tomorrow we will be in Joshua Tree it's

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three big events that we're doing that

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weekend we are doing the fade to black

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live broadcast Friday Saturday I'm

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hosting a panel in the amphitheater at

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7:00 p.m. the forbidden archeology panel

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Sunday night I'm hosting the disclosure

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also at 7 p.m. in the amphitheater and

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there you go so you did it is the big

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event of the year and as far as ufology

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goes in these subjects this is the event

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go and get your tickets and come and

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hang out with us we're going to have our

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booth at the top of the hill front and

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center right in front of the sanctuary

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at the the crosswalk up at the very top

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and at the corner so come up and find us

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and come and hang out somebody sent me

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an e-mail today today I hear you say

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that River moon coffee is uh yet yes

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River moon coffee is going to be there

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with a booth they will be serving River

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moon coffee they're going to be serving

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fated like what and rumor has it

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rumor has it and they're probably

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listening right now alright rumor has it

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they've got some limited-edition

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beverages numbered so cool is that come

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and hang out with this alright it's

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going to be great and yes we're going to

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have some special stuff there that we

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bring every year to contact in the

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desert it's got to come out and hang out

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with us maybe you'll get yourself some

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with that we will be at the e city ranch

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for their July 4th weekend conference

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also got email about that today too as

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well somebody said hey did you mention

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you're going to be yes yes we will be at

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ESET e for their July 4th weekend

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conference obviously it's July 4th

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weekend think July 4th is on Tuesday

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this year I think that's how it's being

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laid out maybe it's Monday Tuesday we'll

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be there Thursday Friday Saturday and

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Sunday I'll be speaking twice and I will

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be out under the stars with night vision

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with all of you for two or three

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straight nights in a row I cannot wait

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bucket list

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he said he ranch and fade to black let's

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get this show crackin happy birthday to

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the one the only I must have been

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driving everybody crazy today around

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here because I was listening to Frankie

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Valli

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old

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I was listening to I went through it all

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big

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girls don't cry sherry walk like a man

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rag doll my eyes adore - I listen to

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three versions of that today

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two of them were live how about Greece

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remember that but for me it was December

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1963 oh what a night that's a cut right

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there did you know that Frankie Valli

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was in The Sopranos do you guys remember

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that it was awesome in that happy

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birthday today Frankie Valli

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what was that movie called Jersey Boys

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excellent movie excellent movie I will

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recommend that to anybody Jersey Boys

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happy birthday Frankie today is 83 years

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old our dead guys birthday today is

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James Brown 1933 to 2006 20 P 273 The

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Godfather of Soul Depp gained fame with

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that monstrous anthem I got you

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I feel good and Rolling Stone magazine

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ranked him seventh on their list of the

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100 greatest artists of all time his

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widow is an old friend of mine and we

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had her on the show last year Adam's

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birthday Tommy Ray Brown Tomi Rae Hynie

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time Tomi Rae Hynie woman I've known

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Tommy since we were kids

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I did some studio stuff with them I

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produced him and I was there live sound

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guy for her band hardly dangerous back

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in the day and she's really cool she's a

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good friend and I know that right now

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she's celebrating out there somewhere

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here in Hollywood she lives in Las Vegas

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maybe she's there but she is the mother

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of their son James Joseph Brown the

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second so there you go Tommy ray I know

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you're out there having a good time

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celebrating the birthday of James Brown

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1933 to 2006 on this day in history

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OTB 1992 check this story out some of

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you may remember this I do now

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check this out in 1992 Exxon executive

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Sidney reso dies in a storage vault in

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New Jersey four days earlier

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now that was on this day and

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- but four days earlier he was abducted

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from the driveway of his New Jersey home

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reso was shot in the arm bound and

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gagged and then placed in a wooden box

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that was hidden in a virtually airless

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storage locker despite his death the

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kidnappers continued with their ransom

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plans now to kidnap their kidnappers

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notably complex ransom notes demanding

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eighteen point five million dollars in

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used $100 bills were sometimes signed

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the Rainbow Warriors now detectives were

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able to get DNA samples from both the

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ransom notes and the pay phones at Exxon

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gas stations where the kidnappers made

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their calls leading them to Arthur and

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Irene Seale who arrested six weeks later

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on June 19th 1992 he was a security guy

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for Exxon got fired like five years

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before 1987 hated Exxon ever since the

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two of them bought a couple of expensive

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resort places in the tropics and went

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broke had to move back home with mom and

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dad I'm not making this up and they got

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upset about it so they turned around and

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kidnapped Sidney and left DNA traces

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they were both caught well anyway

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Irene flipped on her husband which is

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illegal in almost every court in the

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United States right a wife can't testify

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against her husband and if she does

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usually it gets thrown out of court its

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mistrial right okay well anyway the feds

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find a jurisdiction in the United States

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federal that I didn't even know that

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this could happen but they did they

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found one where she could testify

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against her husband so wouldn't get

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thrown out I'm not kidding so she

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testifies against her husband

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he gets 95 without parole and gets 95

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straight years she gets 20 there you go

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crazy on this day in 1992 fader fat

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there are enough diamonds in existence

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right now mind there are enough diamonds

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in the world to give every single person

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yeah mined diamonds seven and a half

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million cupfuls a cup a measuring cup

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with a cup full of diamonds for every

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man woman and child on planet Earth

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now what does that tell you that's a

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fact that is a fact which seriously

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pretty much makes them worthless right

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what how are they rare what is rare

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about that what you want you want to

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sell those to me for how much I've got

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my own cup full okay jerk

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think about that what are we doing

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spending it you know it is a complete

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and complete monopoly conspiracy to to

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regulate and and pop up diamond prices

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it is never ever ever buy a diamond ever

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man you know and I know women love

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diamond they're beautiful they're

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beautiful but it's extortion it's

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extortion think about that for a second

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in this same comparison it's like saying

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you had diamonds are rare because of

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marketing there are more diamonds in

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Russia you could literally cover the

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United States with divers

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half-inch-thick all the way across the

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country you could swim in diamonds now

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and this is the thing if there is a

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cupful for every man woman and child on

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planet or seven and a half billion cups

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of diamonds in existence right now isn't

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that the same thing like saying there's

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a cup full of sand Brook fruit that will

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but there's a couple of dirt there's a

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couple of of what plastic bottles like

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what isn't that crazy

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doesn't that just mess with it's like

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saying that there's a couple of dirty

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motor oil for every man that's it's the

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same statement but yet you know whatever

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went ten grand for a couple of carrots

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it's not it's not alright

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oh I don't want to be I don't want to be

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harsh but I am SpaceX SpaceX lifted off

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from Kennedy Space Center Center from

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Florida on Monday and it boosted up a

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classified spy satellite to orbit for

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the US military then turn around and

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touch down on that nearby land launching

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pad which is pretty cool it was the 34th

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mission for SpaceX but its first flight

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for the Department of Defense and the

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customer long pursued by Elon Musk they

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needed to get to some of this defense

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contract money right privately on SpaceX

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once sued the Air Force over its

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exclusive launch services contract with

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United Launch Alliance the ula right

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with Lockheed Martin and Boeing whoa

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Monday's liftoff of a classified

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satellite from the National

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Reconnaissance Office the MRO officially

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broke you LA's ten-year monopoly on

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launching US military national security

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satellites the launch was delayed one

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day to resolve a problem with a first

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aged engine sensor but the NRO launched

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services integrator contractor Ball

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Aerospace arranged for the Falcon 9

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flight on behalf of the NRO in addition

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to the NRO's business SpaceX has won two

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Air Force contracts with to launch

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Global Positioning satellites in 2018

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and 2019 for now the military's business

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is a fraction of more than 70 missions

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worth more than ten billion dollars

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slated to fly on SpaceX Rockets but with

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up to 13 more military satellite

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launches open for competitive bidding in

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the next few years in new la's lucrative

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sole-source contract due to end in 2019

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SpaceX is angling to become a major

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launch service provider for the

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Department of Defense at a request of

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the NRO SpaceX cut off launch coverage

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two minutes and 48 seconds after liftoff

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right the livecam right the rocket cam

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and that was some 30 seconds after the

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boosters first aid separated from the

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upper stage at that time

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the Rockets second-stage had fired up to

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carry the spy satellite up into

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low-earth orbit

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now the NRO to decline to provide

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further details about the satellites or

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its orbit spacex continued to broadcast

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the Boosters return flight and touchdown

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at the company's nearby landing zone at

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Cape Canaveral Air Force Station but a

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month ago

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SpaceX for the first time lost one of

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its previously flown rockets to send an

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SES communication satellites up in orbit

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a key step in musk quest to demonstrate

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reusability and slash launch cost now

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General John J Raymond head of the US

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Space Command told reporters at the

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Space symposium earlier this month that

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the Air Force is open to buying rides on

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previously flown Rockets nuts right

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SpaceX landed its first orbital rocket

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back in December 2015

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pretty impressive and I loved watching

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the videos four of those touchdowns have

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occurred at a landing pad at Cape

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Canaveral Air Force Station and six

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returned to a platform how floating in

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the ocean we've all seen the videos and

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I talk about it all the time on the show

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the landings at sea are an option if the

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rocket doesn't have enough fuel to

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return all the way back to the launch

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site but my point in reporting all of

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this to you is we are going now full-on

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to the private sector for our space

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program

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you know NASA designing satellites right

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Mars Landers and so forth all right

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they're there they're still viable I

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guess we have telescopes now we're

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getting ready to launch the new Webb

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telescope we have Hubble up there now

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but the web is going to be the biggest

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ever and reportedly has the correct

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mirrors installed I want to do a symbol

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you know rim shot right there

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but it's the private sector now that is

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supporting our space program

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and I'm confused about what is really

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going on here yeah and what does the

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future bring think about that for a

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second

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it's Elon Musk pasla Virgin Galactic you

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know we have Mars 1 in that program

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going on that are all all of these

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private concerns out there but nothing

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public I find it fascinating and this is

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fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church

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tonight

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Trisha Eastman is here we're going to

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talk biohacking yes we are gonna talk

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DMT iboga and ayahuasca get ready it's

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the show that you asked for and we're

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going to do all of that next and you

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know what we'll even take some phone

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calls and I know that's coming

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tonight is Trisha easement and we will

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discuss biohacking and mind-body

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integration with DMT iboga ayahuasca

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yeah man this is the show that you have

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asked for I'm very excited about

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tonight's conversation so just sit down

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relax light up a heater get your drink

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get your blankie it's going to be one of

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those conversations

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tomorrow night is another failure

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tonight with Jon Rappoport and his

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numbers three to three eight two five

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five zero four five and we will open up

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the phone lines a little bit later

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Trisha Eastman is a pioneer in the

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psychedelic Renaissance with a mission

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to inspire others to become their own

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inner alchemists Eastman's holistic

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approach incorporates Eastern philosophy

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Tantra biohacking soul retrieval herbal

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medicine mind-body integration archetype

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o archetypical mug mapping I did not

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just say that work meditation

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somatic therapy shamanism and consulted

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with top destination spas and retreat

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centers for the best practices and

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treatments for the last 15 years she has

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facilitated 300 plus 5 Meo DMT toad

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ceremonies internationally and organizes

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international medicine retreats with

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iboga and peyote her website is

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psychedelic journeys calm and I would

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like to welcome for the first time I'm

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nervous

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Trisha Eastman Trisha how are you hi wow

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what an introduction thank you so much

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Jerry archetypal you know and I just

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couldn't get it out I'm just I'm I'm so

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excited about the show tonight how are

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you doing Wow

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I can feel the energy here like I said

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it's like talking to God well yeah okay

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you must be

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old Anarch so I'm Trisha this is not

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only is this been one of the most

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requested shows over the last you know

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three four or five years but certainly

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and through other media outlets too as

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well the conversations that are out

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there now about this are numerous not

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only through researchers but science and

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academics are getting in on this now too

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as well and we need to clarify about

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what is really going on and you're the

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source for that I know that you're going

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to guide us through this but I'm excited

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and for the audience and I've had lots

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of friends and guests that not only have

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talked to me about this but but I've had

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a lot of questions and that's going to

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continue tonight and I want to thank you

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for coming on tonight and helping us

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through this the audience has got the

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same questions that that I do and I'm

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sure that you hear almost every single

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day you know everybody wants to talk

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about this is such an exciting subject

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now as we start our journey tonight for

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you I would like to just ask what were

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your parents like and and where did you

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grow up

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and were they open-minded and today do

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they know what you do that's an

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00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:28,540
interesting question so I grew up in a

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small farm town outside of Seattle

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Washington and I had a lot of really

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interesting experiences so you would say

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and because of that I ended up being a

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little bit of an outsider I ended up

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being bullied and kind of was a loner

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which sounds kind of interesting in the

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sense that I'm so the opposite that now

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and I'm so grateful for that experience

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because it put me on the path of

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developing the faculties that I have to

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be able to do the work so when I was

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younger my parents were very strict

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Christian they were so strict they

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wouldn't let me watch The Smurfs because

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Gargamel

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Yeah right right yeah he's evil I could

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not have my little ponies because of

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unicorns and I saw auras and I saw a lot

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of other other energies that were

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happening that I couldn't explain and so

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I felt really alone in the world because

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you know being teased and also I had a

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lot of energy and I was labeled a DD as

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a child but I was never medicated for it

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um but I would you know just have these

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crazy stories and I would see and you

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know beans and many of them I was

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actually afraid of I spent a lot of time

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you know being a moment later as I grew

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up and learned it's learn to talk to

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these beans and interact with them many

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of them were benevolent and wanted to

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help me and you know some of them

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weren't necessarily the highest

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intentions but I could usually tell and

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I had you know developed faculties to

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protect myself when I encountered ones

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that didn't have benevolent intentions

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for me so I got older I kind of became a

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very rebellious child I tried to get

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emancipated like there and when I turned

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18 I ended up getting a job working for

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a ton culture bookstore I'm called

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bigger books I don't know if you know

733
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:47,430
about the rave scene have you heard of

734
00:36:53,989 --> 00:36:51,719
raves of course of course okay I wanted

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to make sure I'm not much of a goober

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now Trisha oh I want to say to everybody

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Trisha was introduced to Rita night now

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I'm not going to say who but out of

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respect but somebody that is you know a

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pretty pretty famous of a very smart

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00:37:20,479 --> 00:37:16,589
person that we all admire and respect

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00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:20,489
and that introduction when he turned to

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00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:22,550
you and said Jimmy this

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is who you need to talk to you and I

745
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:28,040
know you remember alright and and and I

746
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:32,570
spun around and so you you started off

747
00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:35,330
on on that kind of footing because when

748
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:37,369
you are introduced by this you know

749
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:40,310
particular individual that says a lot

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00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:43,490
and and I want to thank him right now

751
00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:46,490
for this introduction but for me that

752
00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:49,430
trust is there that you know exactly

753
00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:52,190
what is going on and this discussion

754
00:38:00,250 --> 00:37:54,940
tonight is is very serious

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yes and yeah I'm so honored honored to

756
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:03,440
have him speak that way about the work

757
00:38:14,109 --> 00:38:09,830
that I do and and about me and yeah I

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00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:14,119
feel like and we not very

759
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:16,070
synchronistically and I don't even want

760
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:18,260
to go too deep into that story do you

761
00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:21,490
want me to finish telling you about yeah

762
00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:24,440
absolutely absolutely and well the

763
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:27,020
reason why I jumped in with that is

764
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because hearing about your childhood and

765
00:38:35,859 --> 00:38:32,810
and what you went through it's all a

766
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:35,869
part of the journey isn't it and and

767
00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:38,570
there there's there are certain paths

768
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:41,060
you know you come up to in the road and

769
00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:42,650
you need to go right or left

770
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:43,880
well you need to make those decisions

771
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:47,090
and obviously you made the right ones to

772
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:49,600
get you to here today and that's why

773
00:38:54,220 --> 00:38:52,040
discussing these events when you're

774
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:54,230
young are so important not only for me

775
00:39:03,040 --> 00:38:57,470
for you and the audience so yeah please

776
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:03,050
continue yeah and so they say actually

777
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:04,130
it's interesting you bring that up

778
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:07,730
between the ages of one and seven when

779
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:10,670
you basically I I don't know if you guys

780
00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:12,890
talked about reincarnation but they say

781
00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:15,800
when you incarnate that between that age

782
00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:19,880
period is when your faculties are are

783
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:22,790
the strongest and so for me because I

784
00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:24,920
was seeing all of these things my

785
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,430
parents they they fought against me

786
00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:30,320
because it was all the things that that

787
00:39:35,610 --> 00:39:34,040
they were against being this this very

788
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:35,620
religious family

789
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:38,770
and so I remember one time I went into

790
00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:42,130
the church and they did this process to

791
00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:44,920
get my what I would call I don't know if

792
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:46,540
you guys have to lose the term third eye

793
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:48,570
which would be like your basically your

794
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:52,150
faculties of intuition so they went in

795
00:39:57,180 --> 00:39:54,730
and had the the pastor of the church do

796
00:39:59,010 --> 00:39:57,190
this ritual to like close my third eye

797
00:40:00,960 --> 00:39:59,020
because you're like this girl's got to

798
00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:00,970
be demon-possessed you seeing all these

799
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,100
things and you know here I have this

800
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:06,400
like normal kid who's just you know like

801
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:08,590
really connected to the spirit world and

802
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:13,510
you know extraterrestrials and so it was

803
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:15,550
it was a little difficult growing up

804
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because I was a very straight good kid

805
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:21,250
and very loving but no one really got me

806
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:24,640
and so I did definitely feel like an

807
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:27,480
outsider and it wasn't until I

808
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:29,650
discovered the rave scene when I turned

809
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:32,440
eighteen and found these you know people

810
00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:35,500
that were like more into aliens have

811
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:37,870
similar experiences and I was starting

812
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:40,660
to find my tribe and that's when I

813
00:40:48,140 --> 00:40:42,670
worked for this counterculture bookstore

814
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:48,150
that sold books about psychedelic and

815
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:51,130
just a backlog a little bit my real

816
00:40:57,090 --> 00:40:54,220
father left when I was four and I was

817
00:41:00,530 --> 00:40:57,100
raised by my stepfather and my real

818
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:00,540
father was basically a drug addict he

819
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:04,030
got addicted to cocaine he had like a

820
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:07,020
series of of different addictions that

821
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:09,190
basically put him in a state where he

822
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:14,650
wasn't even able to work and so you know

823
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:16,750
for me I was afraid of doing drugs

824
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:19,150
because I was afraid I was going to

825
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:20,950
break something you know would be like

826
00:41:23,490 --> 00:41:21,640
my real dad

827
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:23,500
and my parents would even say things

828
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:25,360
like that like if you ever do drugs

829
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:26,560
you're going to end up like your father

830
00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:29,890
right you know and I was afraid of them

831
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:31,390
and then they start going to these raves

832
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:34,690
and people were just like more loving

833
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:37,660
and it just didn't seem to match the

834
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,910
reflection of these pictures that had

835
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:41,920
been painted that my parents had told me

836
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:45,610
and so you know being someone who's

837
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:48,310
already like sensitive

838
00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:51,610
the psychedelics like even cannabis you

839
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:53,350
know just like the small so ahead of it

840
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:55,090
I would be in like a whole nother

841
00:41:59,550 --> 00:41:57,850
dimension and it was really hard for me

842
00:42:02,310 --> 00:41:59,560
to handle because I didn't understand

843
00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:02,320
what was happening so I I didn't really

844
00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:06,670
have any attraction to like using a lot

845
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,400
of psychedelics but I did love MDMA and

846
00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:12,640
so I would you know go to the ribs and

847
00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:14,440
do the MDMA which doesn't have any

848
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:18,660
psychedelic effects and interestingly

849
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:22,510
started throwing parties and ended up

850
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:25,810
being the psychedelic first aid person

851
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:28,720
synchronistically at almost every party

852
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:32,230
so if someone took too much LSD or you

853
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:34,540
know took too much MDMA I was one kind

854
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:37,690
of like you know midwifing them into the

855
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:39,730
experience and so I feel like that was

856
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:42,820
like my initiation into the shamanic

857
00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:47,550
path and which I kind of got away from

858
00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:50,260
into my 30s because I got a very

859
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:52,840
high-powered job became you know

860
00:43:00,990 --> 00:42:57,550
successful and you know ended up really

861
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:01,000
unhappy and I had taken a little break

862
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:03,670
from the MDMA and we discovered it again

863
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,300
and was like okay well I thought this

864
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:09,760
stuff caused brain damage because I read

865
00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:11,650
different things about it now we're

866
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:14,790
reading studies from maps that say that

867
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:18,250
actually MDMA is great for healing

868
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:22,260
trauma and PTSD and it actually

869
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:25,330
decreases the blood flow to the amygdala

870
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:26,920
which is the animal brain where trauma

871
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:29,470
is it increases blood blood flow to the

872
00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:32,110
frontal lobe of the brain where you have

873
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:34,300
your higher level thinking and so it

874
00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:36,310
actually does the reverse of what people

875
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:38,860
say it actually helps you to move

876
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:42,160
through trauma and traumatic experiences

877
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:44,130
and there's been some really profound

878
00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:47,740
you know research being done on it so I

879
00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:49,840
went back into it again because I was

880
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,820
traumatized I still a trauma from my

881
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:54,880
childhood from my overbearing parents I

882
00:44:01,110 --> 00:43:58,480
still had you know trauma from being a

883
00:44:01,860 --> 00:44:01,120
workaholic and was really unhappy with

884
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:01,870
my life

885
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:03,730
had developed some really bad anxiety

886
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:06,130
and part of it was because I was so

887
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:09,970
sensitive that my job I would travel

888
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,030
between anywhere from 60 to 100,000

889
00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:15,280
miles a year and I would go into these

890
00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:17,260
different hotels and of course I would

891
00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:19,720
be seeing spirits and and have

892
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:21,460
experiences and that would affect my

893
00:44:26,370 --> 00:44:24,130
sleep so I would just drink a bottle of

894
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:26,380
wine and you know I'd be like you know

895
00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:28,450
if there's a what you would call a ghost

896
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:30,580
in my room I'd just be like well you

897
00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:35,370
can't get me if I'm passed out you know

898
00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:38,520
so I started drinking a lot to just like

899
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:41,500
turn off all my superpowers I guess you

900
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:43,390
could say like I didn't want them I was

901
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:44,710
just like this sucks

902
00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:46,750
like I can't function in the world like

903
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:50,950
a normal person and and then I started

904
00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:53,920
doing the MDMA again after becoming

905
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,820
really unhappy and the medicine came

906
00:45:01,620 --> 00:44:59,680
really strongly giving me these messages

907
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,630
like you need to leave everything

908
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:03,520
including your husband I had been

909
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:06,910
married for six years or actually four

910
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:08,410
years but with my husband two years

911
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,440
before that so six years total and I was

912
00:45:14,610 --> 00:45:12,880
just getting these strong messages you

913
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:14,620
need to find yourself you need to follow

914
00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:15,250
your heart

915
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:20,200
and literally have this vision I don't

916
00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:21,970
know if it was a dream or if I was up

917
00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:25,240
where I saw an angel and it was like you

918
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:27,400
know it's time to go it's time for you

919
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:31,120
to find yourself and I literally left

920
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:33,850
okay so I used to invest in foreclosure

921
00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:37,510
properties I owned four houses I had a

922
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:39,640
business a retail business with 13

923
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:43,810
locations my job and everything and I

924
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:46,690
literally walked away from all of it and

925
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:49,930
went to Europe for four months where I

926
00:45:56,850 --> 00:45:53,190
went on this complete Eat Pray Love

927
00:45:59,070 --> 00:45:56,860
spiritual path and I got some really

928
00:46:02,310 --> 00:45:59,080
profound messages like had some really

929
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:02,320
profound mystical experiences and she's

930
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:04,270
got a really clear message that I needed

931
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:07,240
to finalize my divorce with my husband

932
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:11,920
and he fought me I ended up giving all

933
00:46:15,549 --> 00:46:14,500
of my material possessions to him which

934
00:46:17,979 --> 00:46:15,559
I know you think it's

935
00:46:21,609 --> 00:46:17,989
you probably got to do what you got to

936
00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:21,619
do you know if that's you know if it's

937
00:46:26,140 --> 00:46:23,900
part of your growth and you don't want I

938
00:46:28,359 --> 00:46:26,150
know I give you know the advice that I

939
00:46:31,989 --> 00:46:28,369
give people is you know what if you

940
00:46:36,009 --> 00:46:31,999
don't nobody needs baggage you don't

941
00:46:39,249 --> 00:46:36,019
need you know negative crap hanging off

942
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:39,259
of you it it may seem like material

943
00:46:44,529 --> 00:46:42,410
possessions but and you're always told

944
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,539
that you want more more more write it

945
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:47,359
but honestly it's holding you down

946
00:46:53,769 --> 00:46:50,329
it holds you down it doesn't allow you

947
00:46:56,229 --> 00:46:53,779
to be free so if you had to do it if you

948
00:46:58,989 --> 00:46:56,239
had to do it fine you know because look

949
00:47:02,529 --> 00:46:58,999
at you today so you let it all go you

950
00:47:04,929 --> 00:47:02,539
divorce but and we'll continue in a

951
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:04,939
second but there was one thing that you

952
00:47:10,959 --> 00:47:09,410
were constantly reminding us of through

953
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:10,969
that little life's journey right there

954
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,209
and that is the other side right you

955
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:16,640
were communicating and that was exposing

956
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,630
you to a parallel world another

957
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:22,400
dimension there's something else going

958
00:47:27,999 --> 00:47:24,920
on out there besides the physical self

959
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:28,009
and what the status quo is doing all day

960
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:30,890
long they ignore it but you were seeing

961
00:47:36,939 --> 00:47:33,650
it so you knew you knew that there was

962
00:47:39,279 --> 00:47:36,949
something else out there didn't you yes

963
00:47:42,099 --> 00:47:39,289
and I and I I didn't want to be the

964
00:47:45,370 --> 00:47:42,109
crazy person for you know really

965
00:47:48,370 --> 00:47:45,380
speaking out to it um and and didn't

966
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:48,380
really even have anyone that I knew that

967
00:47:54,009 --> 00:47:51,890
was having similar experiences that I

968
00:47:56,349 --> 00:47:54,019
was having so it definitely felt like I

969
00:48:00,729 --> 00:47:56,359
was an alien myself how do you go about

970
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:00,739
like I felt like an alien myself and so

971
00:48:09,009 --> 00:48:05,599
through these travels and and through

972
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:09,019
spiritual study I got a really clear

973
00:48:16,209 --> 00:48:13,119
message to move to Los Angeles and

974
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:16,219
that's when things really started to

975
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:20,089
happen so I moved to LA about five years

976
00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:25,880
ago and that's when I started to get a

977
00:48:32,850 --> 00:48:30,340
deeper contact with aliens as well

978
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:32,860
understanding the different types as

979
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:38,650
well as starting to work more deep with

980
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:43,040
ceremonial style plant medicines so I

981
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:46,910
was introduced to ayahuasca about five

982
00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:51,520
years ago and had a really incredible

983
00:48:59,050 --> 00:48:54,860
profound awakening experience but had in

984
00:49:02,710 --> 00:48:59,060
no way shape or form any desire to share

985
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:02,720
medicines with people or you know go on

986
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:05,930
any path path related to the medicines

987
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:09,530
well let's okay now this is a good spot

988
00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:12,080
to maybe get a little bit technical so

989
00:49:17,830 --> 00:49:15,080
we can clearly want fine what we are

990
00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:17,840
talking about now you write about I've

991
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:20,750
read a lot of your stuff and and your

992
00:49:26,770 --> 00:49:23,810
writing is amazing don't ever stop doing

993
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:26,780
that it's really well done but you are

994
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:30,730
very explicit and very clear on

995
00:49:37,570 --> 00:49:35,210
definitions and and what you know what

996
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:37,580
these different I want to use the word

997
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:40,010
noun alright there's different names

998
00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:43,610
that people are using and they probably

999
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:46,550
are misusing what they are talking about

1000
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:49,520
and they don't understand and and it's

1001
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:51,110
confusing to a lot of people so let's

1002
00:49:59,250 --> 00:49:56,240
actually start there ayahuasca let's

1003
00:50:02,830 --> 00:49:59,260
let's start there what is ayahuasca and

1004
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:02,840
and what has it what its history I

1005
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:09,050
should say okay so ayahuasca is commonly

1006
00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:15,350
in South America and Peru Brazil as well

1007
00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:20,630
as Colombia and it is a sacred vine that

1008
00:50:29,620 --> 00:50:27,140
is mixed with another plant that has an

1009
00:50:32,740 --> 00:50:29,630
MAOI and so when you think about mao

1010
00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:32,750
eyes they block the reuptake of

1011
00:50:42,190 --> 00:50:38,060
serotonin and the vine contains DMT and

1012
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:42,200
DMT is basically the gateway to the

1013
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:43,250
spirit world

1014
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:45,710
so whenever your when you're born and

1015
00:50:52,930 --> 00:50:49,850
when you die you release DMT from

1016
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:52,940
studies uh there's a lot of things that

1017
00:51:00,250 --> 00:50:56,030
we don't know about DMT because VMT

1018
00:51:01,690 --> 00:51:00,260
they say is is made in the pineal gland

1019
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:01,700
but now that they're doing more research

1020
00:51:07,810 --> 00:51:04,130
they even find it in the lungs they find

1021
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:07,820
it in the spinal cord fluid and many

1022
00:51:12,940 --> 00:51:10,030
other parts of the body and it also

1023
00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:12,950
number one it's an endogenous you know

1024
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:14,780
all over the body but it's also produced

1025
00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:18,800
by certain plants and what happens when

1026
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:24,470
you take the DMT combined with the vine

1027
00:51:30,910 --> 00:51:28,490
is that it creates a prolonged

1028
00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:30,920
experience with the DMT so it's this

1029
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:35,390
opportunity of expanded awareness and it

1030
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:38,630
usually last somewhere between depending

1031
00:51:44,530 --> 00:51:40,730
on you know how much medicine you take

1032
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:44,540
of course eight to 14 hours and it's

1033
00:51:51,070 --> 00:51:47,690
very common the medicine is administered

1034
00:51:54,670 --> 00:51:51,080
in a ceremonial context and within that

1035
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:54,680
ceremonial context you have a shaman and

1036
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:56,090
the shamans

1037
00:52:00,460 --> 00:51:58,250
that work with ayahuasca are called

1038
00:52:04,030 --> 00:52:00,470
codon Darris and ik Linda is like a

1039
00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:04,040
doctor they spend you know upwards of

1040
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:07,670
ten years training in order to work with

1041
00:52:11,860 --> 00:52:09,590
the medicine and a big part of the work

1042
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:11,870
that they do isn't just working with

1043
00:52:19,090 --> 00:52:15,890
ayahuasca it's and using the medicine of

1044
00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:19,100
ayahuasca in combination with plant

1045
00:52:24,670 --> 00:52:22,520
diets which they call the detta and they

1046
00:52:26,830 --> 00:52:24,680
collect wisdom from these different

1047
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:26,840
plants that helps them to educate and

1048
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:30,170
heal any form of disease spiritual

1049
00:52:39,730 --> 00:52:34,810
disease parasites viruses in the body

1050
00:52:43,420 --> 00:52:39,740
the the you've written about this too

1051
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:43,430
the role of the shaman also is to make

1052
00:52:54,850 --> 00:52:49,370
sure that you leave correctly but also

1053
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:54,860
come back correctly right yes so

1054
00:52:58,620 --> 00:52:56,750
depending on the tradition of

1055
00:53:00,760 --> 00:52:58,630
the medicine there's different

1056
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:00,770
ceremonial containers we'll speak

1057
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:04,400
specifically to ayahuasca and with

1058
00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:08,560
ayahuasca there is different prayers and

1059
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:12,200
different spirits that hold a container

1060
00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:15,650
so that no negative spirits can get in

1061
00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:18,230
any that would basically let's say just

1062
00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:20,750
want to harvest energy like psychic

1063
00:53:26,050 --> 00:53:23,120
energy from the people that are in the

1064
00:53:28,770 --> 00:53:26,060
ceremony instead really you know holding

1065
00:53:33,070 --> 00:53:28,780
a safe space like a heart space within

1066
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:33,080
the ceremony and there's different types

1067
00:53:37,810 --> 00:53:35,450
of healings that's performed by the

1068
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:37,820
shaman they also I should say the

1069
00:53:44,350 --> 00:53:41,810
curandera and they one of the the things

1070
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:44,360
that they do commonly in the jungles

1071
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:46,970
they work with a substance called repay

1072
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:48,290
or half pay

1073
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:53,240
and it's a sacred tobacco snuff that is

1074
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:56,510
mixed with the ashes from the fires of

1075
00:54:00,820 --> 00:53:59,090
past ceremonies so the fires are sacred

1076
00:54:04,990 --> 00:54:00,830
because it's the connection to the

1077
00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:05,000
spirit world and so the fires afterwards

1078
00:54:11,770 --> 00:54:07,430
have that that ceremonial blessing and

1079
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:11,780
so this this snuff is blown up the nose

1080
00:54:17,050 --> 00:54:15,050
with a device called a Pepe or if you're

1081
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:17,060
doing it on yourself you use a Caribe

1082
00:54:23,830 --> 00:54:20,330
and when it when when it's blown up it's

1083
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:23,840
blown up each nostril individually for

1084
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:27,890
the purpose of clearing any energies out

1085
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:28,610
of the body

1086
00:54:34,540 --> 00:54:31,850
it's a purgative using it as an

1087
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:34,550
amplifier of prayer because tobacco is a

1088
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:36,650
sacrament and so it actually is an

1089
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:41,330
amplifier of Prayer and also helping to

1090
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:43,670
prepare the person so that they're clear

1091
00:54:49,660 --> 00:54:46,370
when they receive the ayahuasca when

1092
00:54:51,730 --> 00:54:49,670
they drink ayahuasca it has a really

1093
00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:51,740
profound effect you can actually feel it

1094
00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:54,260
traveling through the brain and

1095
00:54:59,020 --> 00:54:56,660
balancing the left and right hemisphere

1096
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,030
of the brain so as you're feeling it

1097
00:55:03,010 --> 00:55:01,040
going up the left nostril you can feel

1098
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:03,020
that part of your brain being stimulated

1099
00:55:09,310 --> 00:55:06,290
and vice versa and feel a complete

1100
00:55:10,450 --> 00:55:09,320
balancing effect and in the jungle they

1101
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:10,460
use it for hunting

1102
00:55:15,339 --> 00:55:12,550
as well because it really helps to

1103
00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:15,349
sharpen the senses now we're going to be

1104
00:55:18,099 --> 00:55:16,670
heading towards a break here in two

1105
00:55:20,109 --> 00:55:18,109
minutes so I'm just going to ask you a

1106
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:20,119
quick question and when we come back one

1107
00:55:25,570 --> 00:55:22,010
more to DMT and the different

1108
00:55:28,359 --> 00:55:25,580
classifications there is there because

1109
00:55:30,310 --> 00:55:28,369
this is a ceremony there are certain

1110
00:55:32,890 --> 00:55:30,320
things that you just have to do to do

1111
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:32,900
this you can't bypass it but with this

1112
00:55:38,410 --> 00:55:36,530
ayahuasca trend that is out there right

1113
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:38,420
now right it's like the thing to do

1114
00:55:44,829 --> 00:55:41,990
these are there groups of stupid

1115
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Americans going down to these countries

1116
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:47,330
in South America just going to get high

1117
00:55:51,339 --> 00:55:48,920
and they don't care about the ceremony

1118
00:55:53,710 --> 00:55:51,349
they just want to go and try to chase

1119
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:53,720
down ayahuasca and I'm sure that that is

1120
00:56:00,849 --> 00:55:58,160
not welcome in those communities I would

1121
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:00,859
say that there's two sides of the coin

1122
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:04,310
there's curandera that that you know

1123
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:06,290
will represent because I mean these

1124
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:08,450
countries tend to have a lot less money

1125
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:10,730
than us and there are people out there

1126
00:56:15,790 --> 00:56:13,369
that want to make a quick dollar and

1127
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:15,800
there's a lot of money in this work and

1128
00:56:21,250 --> 00:56:17,810
so there are people that don't have

1129
00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:21,260
integrity there are what I call and you

1130
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:24,320
know shamans that get access to the

1131
00:56:30,070 --> 00:56:27,080
medicine that and I shouldn't even call

1132
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:30,080
them facilitators that haven't received

1133
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:32,330
the proper training don't know how to

1134
00:56:37,180 --> 00:56:34,970
open up the space properly don't know

1135
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:37,190
how to close the space properly and

1136
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:39,170
don't really understand the spirits that

1137
00:56:44,770 --> 00:56:41,089
they're working with or even have a real

1138
00:56:48,099 --> 00:56:44,780
relationship with them and so those are

1139
00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:48,109
things to keep in mind and so it is

1140
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:50,990
important to you know ask certain

1141
00:56:57,339 --> 00:56:53,990
questions to anyone if you because it's

1142
00:56:58,720 --> 00:56:57,349
all usually word-of-mouth where you know

1143
00:57:00,970 --> 00:56:58,730
someone goes to an ayahuasca ceremony

1144
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:00,980
and the jungle and they're like oh wow

1145
00:57:06,609 --> 00:57:03,200
that was a really incredible Center I

1146
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:06,619
would love to you know go and do it

1147
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:10,970
and they tell a friend about it and and

1148
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:13,369
that's great if you receive a personal

1149
00:57:18,190 --> 00:57:14,450
referral but then when you're out there

1150
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:18,200
seeking it you just never know what

1151
00:57:24,130 --> 00:57:22,490
you're gonna get and so in the end I

1152
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,140
really feel that

1153
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:26,960
the medicines are wise and we attract

1154
00:57:31,420 --> 00:57:29,330
the experiences that we need for our

1155
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:31,430
doing so I don't think there's really a

1156
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:34,640
such thing as a bad experience I think

1157
00:57:40,570 --> 00:57:37,310
that when one gets too caught up in the

1158
00:57:43,870 --> 00:57:40,580
seeking aspect that one kind of invites

1159
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:43,880
a doorway that can create chaos in their

1160
00:57:49,930 --> 00:57:48,770
life right so I would say like when I

1161
00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:49,940
found my Alaska

1162
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:52,670
I wasn't looking for it it found me and

1163
00:57:56,770 --> 00:57:55,370
I literally kept seeing it popping up

1164
00:58:00,820 --> 00:57:56,780
everywhere and this is before it was

1165
00:58:02,890 --> 00:58:00,830
even popular Planet Hollywood I know I

1166
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:02,900
know I have to jump it we have to do a

1167
00:58:10,060 --> 00:58:05,210
break right here our guest tonight this

1168
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:10,070
is the final of our amazing women week

1169
00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:11,990
right here on fade to black our guest

1170
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,390
tonight Trisha Eastman and that's what

1171
00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:16,400
we're talking about tonight biohacking

1172
00:58:21,820 --> 00:58:19,160
now always remember Trisha is a

1173
00:58:23,860 --> 00:58:21,830
first-time guest and it's just like her

1174
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:23,870
and I sitting on my couch having a

1175
00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:26,450
conversation as friends where we start

1176
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:28,670
we start where we end we end but we're

1177
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:30,650
going to end as friends my guest tonight

1178
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:32,990
Trish Iseman more with Trisha right

1179
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:36,210
after this short break stay with us

1180
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[Music]

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[Applause]

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1252
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guest tonight

1253
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:19,520
Trisha Eastman now we're talking

1254
01:02:28,180 --> 01:02:26,030
biohacking and it is it is something

1255
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:28,190
that's being spoken about trendy is the

1256
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:32,510
wrong word but it has caught on in in

1257
01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:34,730
popular culture people are talking about

1258
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:36,920
it so much today and we're starting to

1259
01:02:44,350 --> 01:02:40,840
clear up some definitions of exactly

1260
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:44,360
what what some of these natural things

1261
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:46,970
are that people are are using to

1262
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:49,520
discover themselves and other dimensions

1263
01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:51,890
that are out there and making that

1264
01:02:57,130 --> 01:02:54,920
communication and Tricia welcome back

1265
01:02:59,950 --> 01:02:57,140
and we just went through ayahuasca so I

1266
01:03:03,780 --> 01:02:59,960
guess we can clearly define it in a

1267
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:03,790
simple way as two different natural

1268
01:03:09,310 --> 01:03:06,370
components that combine in your stomach

1269
01:03:12,430 --> 01:03:09,320
and they react with each other and

1270
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:12,440
that's how that happens and that is

1271
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:16,010
traditionally done in Central and South

1272
01:03:20,410 --> 01:03:19,520
America shaman jungle guidance and

1273
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:20,420
ceremony

1274
01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:26,170
that's ayahuasca let's move on to DMT

1275
01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:29,150
because you speak about a few different

1276
01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:33,950
types of DMT and and what am first off

1277
01:03:40,690 --> 01:03:37,160
it is produced naturally in our bodies I

1278
01:03:43,540 --> 01:03:40,700
have heard that if you go through some

1279
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:43,550
type of an adrenaline rush right maybe

1280
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:46,250
you get shot at with a gun or you crash

1281
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:49,430
a car or you know accidentally fall out

1282
01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:51,410
of an airplane whatever it may be you go

1283
01:03:58,660 --> 01:03:54,590
through that adrenaline and and there's

1284
01:04:01,810 --> 01:03:58,670
a hallucination that happens most likely

1285
01:04:04,350 --> 01:04:01,820
caused by DMT that is naturally produced

1286
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:04,360
in your system right

1287
01:04:12,190 --> 01:04:09,310
so yeah it's interesting what happens is

1288
01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:12,200
if you get into a state let's say the

1289
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:16,550
wind is knocked out of you one or you're

1290
01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:19,310
doing some form of heavy breathing which

1291
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:22,580
includes breath work like holotropic

1292
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:25,760
breathwork or even things like wim HOF

1293
01:04:30,539 --> 01:04:27,160
breathing

1294
01:04:33,450 --> 01:04:30,549
you can naturally activate the DMT in

1295
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:33,460
your body there is also specific forms

1296
01:04:41,789 --> 01:04:38,170
of shamanic drumming and seeing such as

1297
01:04:44,099 --> 01:04:41,799
flotation tank therapy that can cause

1298
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:44,109
you to naturally release the DMT in your

1299
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:46,089
body it's completely endogenous to the

1300
01:04:55,259 --> 01:04:52,660
body the DMT itself when we speak about

1301
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:55,269
that here in the United States you can

1302
01:05:02,940 --> 01:04:58,210
you can illegally purchase it obviously

1303
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:02,950
but that form of DMT what is that and I

1304
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:07,210
guess most people smoke it right yeah so

1305
01:05:12,059 --> 01:05:09,609
there's um - I'll talk about the two

1306
01:05:16,019 --> 01:05:12,069
most popular forms of DMT there's many

1307
01:05:18,059 --> 01:05:16,029
different forms of DMT but they tend to

1308
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:18,069
fall into the two categories one being

1309
01:05:24,779 --> 01:05:22,559
the nn DMT which is the most common

1310
01:05:28,259 --> 01:05:24,789
sometimes people will put it it's like a

1311
01:05:31,049 --> 01:05:28,269
powder that will be put on like

1312
01:05:35,009 --> 01:05:31,059
marijuana and smoked and that one

1313
01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:35,019
creates an out-of-body experience but

1314
01:05:42,479 --> 01:05:39,670
it's not as deep of a dissolution um but

1315
01:05:44,430 --> 01:05:42,489
it still produces visions like for

1316
01:05:46,829 --> 01:05:44,440
instance Terence Mckenna talks about

1317
01:05:49,859 --> 01:05:46,839
seeing Machine L single or different

1318
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:49,869
dimensions and you know in my in my

1319
01:05:56,609 --> 01:05:53,609
opinion you see a lot more other bands

1320
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:56,619
when you work with the nn DMT and you

1321
01:06:04,160 --> 01:05:58,960
interact with a lot more other beings as

1322
01:06:07,459 --> 01:06:04,170
we're with the five Meo DMT it

1323
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:07,469
specifically has a structure that

1324
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:10,930
stimulates the five HT 1 a 5 HT - a

1325
01:06:15,299 --> 01:06:13,930
which are the serotonin receptor sites -

1326
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:15,309
where it creates this complete

1327
01:06:20,339 --> 01:06:17,950
transcendental dissolving where you

1328
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,349
literally feel like you do not even have

1329
01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:23,680
a body and in that experience many

1330
01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:26,200
people have lack of a visual experience

1331
01:06:31,739 --> 01:06:28,869
that they get more of a transmission of

1332
01:06:35,130 --> 01:06:31,749
knowing and it's an expanded state of

1333
01:06:37,529 --> 01:06:35,140
awareness and so when one ego dissolves

1334
01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:37,539
in Buddhism they talk about it as the

1335
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:40,780
non-dual state when you step outside

1336
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:43,810
yourself all of your problems all the

1337
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:49,150
walls that the ego created tend to like

1338
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:51,520
lose their power or you find new

1339
01:06:57,350 --> 01:06:54,430
solutions to them and sometimes it's an

1340
01:07:00,120 --> 01:06:57,360
intense instantaneous healing we're on

1341
01:07:02,610 --> 01:07:00,130
there's no effort where you have to like

1342
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:02,620
process it in your mind you just let it

1343
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:05,290
go and it's no longer part of who you

1344
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:09,690
are I've seen people although it's rare

1345
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:12,490
even just completely let go of addiction

1346
01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:15,970
a lot of people let go of trauma like

1347
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:20,710
PTSD or sexual trauma things like that a

1348
01:07:29,490 --> 01:07:24,010
heroin addiction things like that - is

1349
01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:29,500
all just completely Wow Wow that's why

1350
01:07:38,570 --> 01:07:33,870
now with five Meo

1351
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:38,580
well DMT in general but with five Meo

1352
01:07:44,670 --> 01:07:42,280
how long does this last I've heard

1353
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:44,680
stories about it being eight minutes or

1354
01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:46,720
ten minutes now if you're sprinkling it

1355
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:49,420
on marijuana and and certainly what the

1356
01:07:56,460 --> 01:07:52,750
pot that goes around today right that

1357
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:56,470
isn't an eight-minute high but if it you

1358
01:08:03,420 --> 01:07:58,930
know how long are these DMT sessions

1359
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:03,430
typically so um you know just to

1360
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:07,330
differentiate the NMD MT usually lasts

1361
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:10,210
anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes right and

1362
01:08:17,970 --> 01:08:15,670
the five Meo DMT also lasts for 15 to 20

1363
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:17,980
minutes however there's something a

1364
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:21,450
little different in that there's

1365
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:24,730
synthetic forms of five Meo DMT but then

1366
01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:28,210
there's a specific form of five Meo DMT

1367
01:08:33,539 --> 01:08:30,910
that comes from the glands of a toad in

1368
01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:33,549
the Sonoran Desert and this toad

1369
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,280
it basically hibernates ten months out

1370
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:39,040
of the year and inside its glands which

1371
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:40,990
are located on the sides of its neck

1372
01:08:47,309 --> 01:08:44,530
there is this liquidy venom that is

1373
01:08:49,770 --> 01:08:47,319
extracted from the toad without harming

1374
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:49,780
the toad when it comes up during the

1375
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,310
months of July and August the rainy

1376
01:08:56,539 --> 01:08:53,520
season in the Sonoran Desert

1377
01:08:59,059 --> 01:08:56,549
and when it's dried and smoked it

1378
01:09:01,160 --> 01:08:59,069
produces a little bit longer of an

1379
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:01,170
experience and that's because it has

1380
01:09:04,820 --> 01:09:02,510
other

1381
01:09:07,309 --> 01:09:04,830
tryptamines which would be like in the

1382
01:09:10,099 --> 01:09:07,319
dmt family like eight other compounds in

1383
01:09:14,269 --> 01:09:10,109
it that are not in the other forms of

1384
01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:14,279
DMT and those create a somatic so body

1385
01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:16,830
healing effect so even after that

1386
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:19,319
20-minute experience wears off you're

1387
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:21,810
still feeling different forms of healing

1388
01:09:26,510 --> 01:09:24,210
in the body one of the compounds is we

1389
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,520
fought mean and blue fattening works on

1390
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:28,319
the seedier Keynes and interleukin

1391
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:30,330
system so like working on the immune

1392
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:32,250
system so for people that have arthritis

1393
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:35,640
or inflammation or who've had like some

1394
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,500
type of major injury maybe a sports

1395
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:39,839
injury can be incredibly healing for

1396
01:09:47,750 --> 01:09:44,640
them um now when you speak about a 20

1397
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:47,760
minute you know timetable are you

1398
01:09:52,730 --> 01:09:49,310
completely

1399
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:52,740
are you back to your senses after that I

1400
01:09:56,750 --> 01:09:55,290
don't want to use the word sober but but

1401
01:09:58,700 --> 01:09:56,760
I mean do you come you know like

1402
01:10:04,340 --> 01:09:58,710
straight back down and you can just go

1403
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:04,350
okay alright I'm okay right that if they

1404
01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:06,690
my a my phrasing that correctly

1405
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,470
am I am I asking the right question when

1406
01:10:15,860 --> 01:10:12,780
you say 20 minutes Wow 20 minutes you're

1407
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:15,870
just back to normal well here's what I

1408
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:18,420
would say is this um there's a couple of

1409
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:21,870
things number one the you called the MT

1410
01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:23,970
the lunchtime shaman meaning that you

1411
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:26,070
could literally take a lunch break and

1412
01:10:30,980 --> 01:10:28,650
go do it and go back to work not that

1413
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:30,990
you would want to and I don't want to

1414
01:10:38,270 --> 01:10:34,490
cheapen any of the ceremonial progress

1415
01:10:39,820 --> 01:10:38,280
sacred medicine because profile to give

1416
01:10:43,310 --> 01:10:39,830
you an ill

1417
01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:43,320
yes um but I also will share with you

1418
01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:46,980
that many people if they have something

1419
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:50,040
that needs to come up there's many ways

1420
01:10:52,340 --> 01:10:51,690
that can come up like they might start

1421
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:52,350
laughing

1422
01:10:57,380 --> 01:10:55,710
they might scream they might it's very

1423
01:11:00,110 --> 01:10:57,390
rare it's like a small percentage they

1424
01:11:01,580 --> 01:11:00,120
might throw up but different forms of

1425
01:11:03,770 --> 01:11:01,590
purging and sometimes they can have

1426
01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:03,780
emotional purging where they cry a lot

1427
01:11:09,950 --> 01:11:06,900
and so if you have

1428
01:11:13,220 --> 01:11:09,960
some form of emotional processing or

1429
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:13,230
purging that occurs then you might feel

1430
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,570
a little raw afterwards in the sense of

1431
01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:17,520
like how you would normally feel after

1432
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:22,460
you cried now what do you are you fully

1433
01:11:27,770 --> 01:11:25,560
remembering the 20 minutes I mean this

1434
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:27,780
is a profound experience you are talking

1435
01:11:33,470 --> 01:11:31,050
about a life altering consciousness type

1436
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:33,480
of thing looking into your own soul and

1437
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:35,940
and and exploring an out-of-body

1438
01:11:41,540 --> 01:11:38,730
experience and possibly a parallel world

1439
01:11:46,580 --> 01:11:41,550
that Terence Mckenna talked about so

1440
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,590
much do you remember everything so it

1441
01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:48,960
really depends on the dosage and how

1442
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:51,270
well the facilitator understands how to

1443
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:53,040
dose the person by asking the right

1444
01:12:00,140 --> 01:11:57,449
questions so if a person has too high of

1445
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:00,150
a dosage they have a circumstance which

1446
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,130
is called wetting out where they don't

1447
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:04,320
remember a lot of the experience that's

1448
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:08,370
pretty rare some people remember the

1449
01:12:12,740 --> 01:12:10,679
whole entire thing some people remember

1450
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:12,750
pieces of it and because it's something

1451
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:15,210
that's bigger than our teeny little

1452
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:16,920
minds like think of it like the

1453
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:18,449
consciousness that you're that you're

1454
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:20,040
connecting with is like the difference

1455
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,130
between a little like chicken and human

1456
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:25,199
intelligence and even bigger than that

1457
01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:28,290
so it's bigger than your mind can really

1458
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:31,320
you know try to articulate and so the

1459
01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:33,210
more that you try to like break it up

1460
01:12:37,580 --> 01:12:35,100
and understand it sometimes it even

1461
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:37,590
could like cheapen how powerful of an

1462
01:12:43,610 --> 01:12:39,480
experience it's kind of like you can

1463
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:43,620
hold that feeling and and just hold it

1464
01:12:49,729 --> 01:12:47,370
for what it is the who made the

1465
01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:49,739
discovery about the toads out in the

1466
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:51,900
Sonoran Desert is this something that

1467
01:12:59,180 --> 01:12:56,340
goes back through you know civilizations

1468
01:13:00,649 --> 01:12:59,190
or is this a modern discovery and now

1469
01:13:02,780 --> 01:13:00,659
you're talking about this going down two

1470
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:02,790
months out of the year are there now

1471
01:13:08,959 --> 01:13:05,730
people out in the storm desert chasing

1472
01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:08,969
down these toads trying to extract DMT

1473
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:15,150
off of their necks well you know exactly

1474
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,520
what I'm asking to you know you know

1475
01:13:23,169 --> 01:13:19,760
exactly what yeah

1476
01:13:25,029 --> 01:13:23,179
I want to yeah its these there's so much

1477
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:25,039
to talk about here so first of all there

1478
01:13:28,629 --> 01:13:27,199
is a I'm totally forgetting the name of

1479
01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:28,639
the doctor and I want to say it's like

1480
01:13:33,549 --> 01:13:31,369
dr. Albert gross or I know I'm getting

1481
01:13:38,970 --> 01:13:33,559
the name wrong and he actually

1482
01:13:42,250 --> 01:13:38,980
discovered in the 1970s these toads and

1483
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:42,260
many people have found different

1484
01:13:49,839 --> 01:13:44,719
research one of them being dr. Octavio

1485
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:49,849
reading who is a toad shaman and he

1486
01:13:53,529 --> 01:13:51,650
wrote a book called the toad of Don and

1487
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:53,539
talks about these artifacts that were

1488
01:14:00,009 --> 01:13:56,480
found in like Aztec Mayan temples that

1489
01:14:02,169 --> 01:14:00,019
even show statues of the toads with like

1490
01:14:03,970 --> 01:14:02,179
a spiral of life where the glands are

1491
01:14:07,149 --> 01:14:03,980
like this is the gateway like this is

1492
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:07,159
the portal and different types of

1493
01:14:13,209 --> 01:14:09,050
ceramic devices that look like they

1494
01:14:15,069 --> 01:14:13,219
could be used for smoking DMT however it

1495
01:14:16,299 --> 01:14:15,079
was lost just like there was a lot of

1496
01:14:20,970 --> 01:14:16,309
information that was lost and I feel

1497
01:14:23,799 --> 01:14:20,980
like this toad came back to basically

1498
01:14:25,839 --> 01:14:23,809
give us that remembering that we lost

1499
01:14:29,379 --> 01:14:25,849
you know going through that the ages of

1500
01:14:31,899 --> 01:14:29,389
darkness and and it's interesting how it

1501
01:14:34,029 --> 01:14:31,909
was rediscovered in the 1970s which is

1502
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:34,039
the beginning of the first psychedelic

1503
01:14:42,129 --> 01:14:39,530
revolution right right okay now let's

1504
01:14:45,220 --> 01:14:42,139
let's move on or we're just doing

1505
01:14:49,149 --> 01:14:45,230
definitions right now iboga now your

1506
01:14:53,919 --> 01:14:49,159
your latest article which where where

1507
01:14:56,290 --> 01:14:53,929
was that posted when was it is Society

1508
01:15:00,100 --> 01:14:56,300
it was a rebel Society right great great

1509
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:00,110
article on iboga and which is something

1510
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:03,050
that most people I'm looking at Twitter

1511
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:06,400
right now Oh what you are you on Twitter

1512
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:10,010
you know what I am on Instagram I am on

1513
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:12,650
Facebook and you can actually follow me

1514
01:15:16,060 --> 01:15:14,570
on Facebook and I actually post a lot of

1515
01:15:19,049 --> 01:15:16,070
really interesting stuff if you just

1516
01:15:21,580 --> 01:15:19,059
look up my name okay everybody is asking

1517
01:15:26,020 --> 01:15:21,590
everything yeah everybody's asking for

1518
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:26,030
your Twitter handle so just go to click

1519
01:15:28,959 --> 01:15:27,650
on the website over at Jimmy Church

1520
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:28,969
radio.com it will take you to

1521
01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:31,280
psychedelic journeys and there are some

1522
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:31,990
other links

1523
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:36,730
or two as well but there are people out

1524
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:37,930
there right now that wanting to get a

1525
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:39,550
hold of you after the show so there you

1526
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:39,850
go

1527
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:45,040
Facebook is the best way Baga most

1528
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:48,820
haven't heard about this I don't want to

1529
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:51,250
use the word drug but you know maybe

1530
01:15:58,230 --> 01:15:53,050
maybe we should it doesn't matter but

1531
01:16:01,890 --> 01:15:58,240
what is iboga so okay so I just want to

1532
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:01,900
say out of all of the entheogens that I

1533
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:06,130
have ever worked with the chod is like

1534
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:09,370
the crown and iboga is the root and they

1535
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:12,970
connect all of consciousness and all of

1536
01:16:20,130 --> 01:16:17,230
you know the entire you know bubble of

1537
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,140
of the galaxy together all the

1538
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:22,480
information I feel like when you work

1539
01:16:29,730 --> 01:16:24,430
with both medicines you kind of get a

1540
01:16:32,730 --> 01:16:29,740
complete picture of the cosmology and so

1541
01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:32,740
the iboga by the way I just want to

1542
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:35,260
share out of respect to the indigenous

1543
01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:36,930
people that work with these medicines

1544
01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:41,980
that both iboga and toad are the rarest

1545
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:44,260
anti agents on the planet and iboga

1546
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:46,890
right now is currently in a state of

1547
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:50,280
severe issues with sustainability

1548
01:16:56,340 --> 01:16:53,080
although I will share with you also

1549
01:16:59,190 --> 01:16:56,350
I feel the planet makes what it needs to

1550
01:17:02,490 --> 01:16:59,200
have as far as like what it would

1551
01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:02,500
naturally produce and I don't feel like

1552
01:17:08,130 --> 01:17:05,380
iboga is for everybody like I call iboga

1553
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:08,140
the Avatar medicine because it truly

1554
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:12,210
helps you to break through all of the

1555
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:16,570
patterns that you have that are really

1556
01:17:21,690 --> 01:17:19,270
deeply ingrained on a very intelligent

1557
01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:21,700
level it's got this intelligence that

1558
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:24,340
just goes far beyond anything that I've

1559
01:17:31,530 --> 01:17:28,690
connected with and then once you break

1560
01:17:35,730 --> 01:17:31,540
through into the spirit world it's much

1561
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:35,740
like remote viewing you can travel all

1562
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:38,050
around the entire galaxy you can travel

1563
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:41,170
around the world talk to different

1564
01:17:49,710 --> 01:17:44,110
people of dead or alive

1565
01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:49,720
it's pretty incredible and to speak to

1566
01:17:58,260 --> 01:17:52,660
where it comes from so it's a the

1567
01:18:01,290 --> 01:17:58,270
bleachy are in Africa and Gabon and they

1568
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:01,300
have the sacred root that comes from a

1569
01:18:07,710 --> 01:18:04,030
plant and from what the medicine has

1570
01:18:10,110 --> 01:18:07,720
told me and even the booty believed that

1571
01:18:13,890 --> 01:18:10,120
they were the first humans on the planet

1572
01:18:16,710 --> 01:18:13,900
and this was the first psychedelic so it

1573
01:18:19,380 --> 01:18:16,720
literally is like the entire Akashic

1574
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:19,390
record - prom Wow

1575
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:23,470
when we're going to come right back to

1576
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:27,250
iboga when you first had your first

1577
01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:29,650
ceremony with ayahuasca did you travel

1578
01:18:40,620 --> 01:18:35,640
to Central or South America I didn't I

1579
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:40,630
I discovered it through some friends um

1580
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:44,670
and actually did it locally in a

1581
01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:48,310
underground ceremony and you know now

1582
01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:50,260
that I have the knowledge that I do I

1583
01:18:54,330 --> 01:18:52,360
kind of wish I had done it in the jungle

1584
01:18:56,910 --> 01:18:54,340
the first time because it's so magical

1585
01:19:00,180 --> 01:18:56,920
right with the medicines in the jungle

1586
01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:00,190
and what about with Volga now you're

1587
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:01,480
talking about gobo and you're talking

1588
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:04,530
about Africa did you travel to Africa

1589
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:09,040
so the medicine um it has certain places

1590
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:12,610
that it's very happy um it likes the

1591
01:19:18,570 --> 01:19:15,730
jungle but it also loves Costa Rica and

1592
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:18,580
so I've been to Costa Rica I've done the

1593
01:19:24,150 --> 01:19:20,650
medicine four times in Costa Rica and

1594
01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:24,160
I've done it in Mexico one time and you

1595
01:19:31,710 --> 01:19:27,160
write about one of your ceremonies in

1596
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:31,720
this ah it was a rebel what is it again

1597
01:19:37,890 --> 01:19:35,820
rebel rebel Society yeah rebel Society I

1598
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:37,900
encourage everybody to go and read the

1599
01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:42,570
article because you you well you've

1600
01:19:49,710 --> 01:19:47,080
you've remembered everything is there

1601
01:19:52,050 --> 01:19:49,720
every step of the way very interesting

1602
01:19:55,650 --> 01:19:52,060
phases that you have gone through again

1603
01:20:01,770 --> 01:19:58,950
it's how do I felt like I was there

1604
01:20:05,130 --> 01:20:01,780
right I felt like I went through it but

1605
01:20:08,180 --> 01:20:05,140
for you to describe it like that is very

1606
01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:08,190
interesting that was that in Costa Rica

1607
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:11,680
yes that was in Costa it what it was

1608
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:14,770
take us through typically what happens

1609
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:17,650
and and I want to ask you this as you

1610
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:19,570
describe this to us we have about eight

1611
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:23,770
minutes here before the break with DMT

1612
01:20:30,060 --> 01:20:27,760
some of the or most of the descriptions

1613
01:20:33,210 --> 01:20:30,070
that I have read and listened to and

1614
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:33,220
watched from people around the world the

1615
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:36,970
the experiences are similar so much so

1616
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:39,610
that for me I think that they are going

1617
01:20:45,930 --> 01:20:42,610
to the same place they are going to

1618
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:45,940
another reality or another dimension

1619
01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:48,970
that is similar and that is the journey

1620
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:51,460
that is happening is it the same thing

1621
01:20:58,440 --> 01:20:56,080
with iboga in that everybody that uses

1622
01:21:03,290 --> 01:20:58,450
it and goes through the ceremony has the

1623
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:03,300
same experience well I would say that

1624
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:06,480
everyone has an experience that's

1625
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:09,880
individuated for them the medicine you

1626
01:21:14,670 --> 01:21:11,050
know like they talk about with

1627
01:21:17,010 --> 01:21:14,680
superfoods and Chinese herbs adaptogens

1628
01:21:19,490 --> 01:21:17,020
and an adaptogen it adapts to what you

1629
01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:19,500
need psychedelics are the ultimate

1630
01:21:25,980 --> 01:21:22,780
adaptogen they literally know exactly

1631
01:21:29,850 --> 01:21:25,990
what you need to see and and go in and

1632
01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:29,860
they purify they literally like purify

1633
01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:34,300
your entire system so every experience

1634
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:36,520
is going to be unique to the individual

1635
01:21:42,140 --> 01:21:39,130
but there are some common things within

1636
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:42,150
the iboga experience with many people

1637
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:45,370
depending on the tradition too because

1638
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:47,290
there's many like I've worked with the

1639
01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:49,210
mystical tradition of the blue tea but

1640
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:51,510
I've also worked with the de simba

1641
01:21:55,740 --> 01:21:54,310
tradition of the blue tea and the

1642
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:55,750
December branch is a little more

1643
01:22:02,370 --> 01:21:57,280
feminine and so it's a little more

1644
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:02,380
mystical as where the mitsuko tradition

1645
01:22:06,810 --> 01:22:04,960
is a little more masculine and I feel

1646
01:22:09,370 --> 01:22:06,820
when I'm working with the mitsuko

1647
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:09,380
tradition I spend a lot more time

1648
01:22:19,180 --> 01:22:13,040
working talking to my soul talking to

1649
01:22:22,750 --> 01:22:19,190
other spirits and with the December

1650
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:22,760
tradition I feel it's a lot more

1651
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:26,000
feminine and a lot more heart centered a

1652
01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:29,030
little bit more connected are you

1653
01:22:33,970 --> 01:22:30,560
familiar with the term Kundalini energy

1654
01:22:35,649 --> 01:22:33,980
of course of course yeah I just don't

1655
01:22:38,290 --> 01:22:35,659
like to like you know I figured it's

1656
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:38,300
it's pretty standard yeah

1657
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,850
standard issue would be Kundalini on

1658
01:22:46,450 --> 01:22:43,040
this show yeah urine you're in good

1659
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:46,460
hands right now Trisha so the there was

1660
01:22:52,689 --> 01:22:49,280
want you to comment really quick in the

1661
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,699
article you leave you said you wrote

1662
01:22:57,970 --> 01:22:55,040
down some questions that you needed to

1663
01:23:02,260 --> 01:22:57,980
have answered about yourself right d-did

1664
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:02,270
you actually write them down yes so in

1665
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:06,050
the journey the I read you prepare

1666
01:23:15,330 --> 01:23:09,370
questions and in the Masako tradition as

1667
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:15,340
the the shaman which is a aneema they

1668
01:23:20,740 --> 01:23:18,050
will read the questions to you and keep

1669
01:23:22,660 --> 01:23:20,750
in mind that the there are certain parts

1670
01:23:23,890 --> 01:23:22,670
of your brain that are literally shut

1671
01:23:27,939 --> 01:23:23,900
down for repairs

1672
01:23:29,470 --> 01:23:27,949
so you actually talking during the

1673
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:29,480
journey it's kind of like a drunk person

1674
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:33,170
your little slurred but it's so it's

1675
01:23:37,570 --> 01:23:36,050
very helpful to have you know someone

1676
01:23:39,820 --> 01:23:37,580
reading the questions for you because

1677
01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:39,830
you might you know forget something

1678
01:23:45,550 --> 01:23:42,590
that's really important so basically

1679
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:45,560
what happens is the the shaman will read

1680
01:23:52,450 --> 01:23:48,770
the question and then you go in and and

1681
01:23:54,729 --> 01:23:52,460
and you ask the question to your soul so

1682
01:23:58,810 --> 01:23:54,739
you go through this guided journey where

1683
01:24:03,459 --> 01:23:58,820
you literally fly to your house you go

1684
01:24:06,220 --> 01:24:03,469
inside you look around your home for

1685
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:06,230
where your soul hangs out and you know I

1686
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:09,170
found mine laying in bed and go in I

1687
01:24:15,879 --> 01:24:13,489
shake my soul and literally I see you my

1688
01:24:18,490 --> 01:24:15,889
soul pop out of bed and just stare at me

1689
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:18,500
and of course I'm like what's going on

1690
01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:20,960
here you know this is my soul staring at

1691
01:24:22,810 --> 01:24:22,280
me this is crazy

1692
01:24:25,689 --> 01:24:22,820
that I'm

1693
01:24:29,649 --> 01:24:25,699
looking at myself so the shamans like

1694
01:24:32,589 --> 01:24:29,659
okay so you know ask your soul if you

1695
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:32,599
can ask it some questions and so I asked

1696
01:24:36,750 --> 01:24:34,730
my soul and it's like yes and so I

1697
01:24:39,010 --> 01:24:36,760
started asking it questions and

1698
01:24:41,379 --> 01:24:39,020
everything you know all these like

1699
01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:41,389
complex problems that I had in my life

1700
01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:43,880
it was like really simple answers like

1701
01:24:49,450 --> 01:24:47,540
connect to me like like take care of

1702
01:24:52,649 --> 01:24:49,460
yourself like connect to yourself more

1703
01:24:57,490 --> 01:24:52,659
and you know give yourself more time

1704
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:57,500
just really simple stuff and it felt

1705
01:25:03,250 --> 01:25:00,560
like it was coming from my soul and the

1706
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:03,260
most beautiful part of it was when I was

1707
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:06,110
finished talking to my soul I said you

1708
01:25:12,220 --> 01:25:08,570
know or thank you so much and I gave

1709
01:25:16,629 --> 01:25:12,230
myself a hug and to feel literally the

1710
01:25:20,350 --> 01:25:16,639
the feeling of how much my soul loved me

1711
01:25:27,069 --> 01:25:20,360
was the most incredible thing I could

1712
01:25:28,930 --> 01:25:27,079
ever experience the the science side of

1713
01:25:31,450 --> 01:25:28,940
it which we're going to discuss next

1714
01:25:34,689 --> 01:25:31,460
when we come back after the break this

1715
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:34,699
science side of it science needs to get

1716
01:25:39,879 --> 01:25:37,489
involved too because of when we are

1717
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:39,889
talking about the many worlds theory or

1718
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:43,130
parallel universes parallel worlds

1719
01:25:49,089 --> 01:25:46,130
quantum theory quantum entanglement that

1720
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:49,099
there are other things going on out

1721
01:25:54,729 --> 01:25:52,489
there that we are not aware of is DMT

1722
01:25:57,939 --> 01:25:54,739
and ayahuasca and iboga are they

1723
01:25:59,500 --> 01:25:57,949
starting to prove to science that these

1724
01:26:02,169 --> 01:25:59,510
other dimensions and these other worlds

1725
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:02,179
a communication with the universe is a

1726
01:26:11,169 --> 01:26:09,110
reality absolutely so basically there

1727
01:26:14,770 --> 01:26:11,179
have been some really profound studies

1728
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:14,780
done I think it was John Hopkins but

1729
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:17,570
please don't quote me on that were they

1730
01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:21,440
documented mystical experiences with

1731
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:24,440
psilocybin mushrooms and they even did

1732
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:27,440
blind studies where they would give one

1733
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:31,250
person a niacin pill which creates a

1734
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:33,170
flushing effect and can create some

1735
01:26:36,459 --> 01:26:35,449
tingling in the body so that someone

1736
01:26:39,129 --> 01:26:36,469
might think oh I

1737
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:39,139
taking a drug but it doesn't have any

1738
01:26:44,469 --> 01:26:41,449
psychoactive effects and then they gave

1739
01:26:47,770 --> 01:26:44,479
the other person psilocybin mushrooms

1740
01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:47,780
and the experiences that people were

1741
01:26:54,189 --> 01:26:51,260
having were very common related to you

1742
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:54,199
know visiting other dimensions having

1743
01:27:00,729 --> 01:26:58,090
memories of past lives having

1744
01:27:03,879 --> 01:27:00,739
connections with deities having

1745
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:03,889
connections with extraterrestrials all

1746
01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:06,530
of these different things and what's

1747
01:27:13,689 --> 01:27:10,670
interesting also is my my boyfriend is

1748
01:27:16,569 --> 01:27:13,699
the CEO of a addiction treatment center

1749
01:27:19,450 --> 01:27:16,579
in Mexico called crossroads which does a

1750
01:27:21,459 --> 01:27:19,460
bowl game and he's a psychologist and he

1751
01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:21,469
just did a study that he presented

1752
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:23,510
poster at the psychedelic Sciences

1753
01:27:29,169 --> 01:27:25,940
conference in Oakland and he took that

1754
01:27:31,330 --> 01:27:29,179
study and did a survey of all of the

1755
01:27:36,370 --> 01:27:31,340
patients that had come through and got

1756
01:27:39,459 --> 01:27:36,380
it approved and basically compared to

1757
01:27:42,459 --> 01:27:39,469
psilocybin mushrooms and found a higher

1758
01:27:45,819 --> 01:27:42,469
rate of mystical experiences with five

1759
01:27:48,580 --> 01:27:45,829
Meo DMT as compared to the psilocybin so

1760
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:48,590
there's even documentation that these

1761
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:52,010
mystical experiences are sometimes more

1762
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:54,170
common with different psychedelics

1763
01:27:58,509 --> 01:27:56,030
of course sudden setting does make a

1764
01:28:01,209 --> 01:27:58,519
difference let's take a break right here

1765
01:28:06,430 --> 01:28:01,219
Trisha our guest tonight Trisha Eastman

1766
01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:06,440
she has facilitated 305 Meo DMT Toad

1767
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ceremonies internationally tonight we

1768
01:28:13,390 --> 01:28:11,170
are talking biohacking with Tricia

1769
01:28:19,290 --> 01:28:13,400
mortar she's been right after the short

1770
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you be ok with more energy more

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endurance thicker healthier hair a

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better mood reduced appearance of

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improved vision improved memory okay

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1829
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1830
01:31:09,610 --> 01:31:07,550
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1831
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,620
listening to Jimmy church this is a

1832
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1833
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1834
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[Music]

1835
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:02,470
welcome back fade to black I'm Errol to

1836
01:32:05,620 --> 01:32:04,130
be our guest tonight Trisha Eastman

1837
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:05,630
we're talking about

1838
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:14,000
well DMT ayahuasca iboga biohacking you

1839
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:17,690
and also something very interesting that

1840
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:21,170
Trisha has brought up now a few times in

1841
01:32:27,130 --> 01:32:23,210
our conversation I want to focus on this

1842
01:32:30,370 --> 01:32:27,140
somewhat about communication with with

1843
01:32:33,700 --> 01:32:30,380
the galaxy or with the universe and with

1844
01:32:37,060 --> 01:32:33,710
et I want to clarify this does this

1845
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:37,070
communication actually happen and is it

1846
01:32:41,650 --> 01:32:39,650
what is needed to communicate with ET

1847
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:41,660
back to earth and of course what are

1848
01:32:49,780 --> 01:32:43,990
they saying

1849
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:49,790
so thank you so much I don't think it's

1850
01:32:56,830 --> 01:32:53,570
necessary to take psychedelics but it's

1851
01:32:59,340 --> 01:32:56,840
very helpful because you cannot make it

1852
01:33:03,820 --> 01:32:59,350
into these interdimensional realms if

1853
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:03,830
you have a closed chakras so you're

1854
01:33:10,660 --> 01:33:06,290
basically your entire chakra system is

1855
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:10,670
your time travel device and so when you

1856
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:13,610
are stuck in the third dimension which

1857
01:33:18,940 --> 01:33:16,250
is your ego your solar plexus the

1858
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:18,950
childhood trauma is stored in that area

1859
01:33:23,740 --> 01:33:20,930
and that prevents you from traveling

1860
01:33:26,350 --> 01:33:23,750
what the psychedelic medicines do is

1861
01:33:28,990 --> 01:33:26,360
they create an opening in those spaces

1862
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:29,000
so one can move into the heart so one

1863
01:33:35,740 --> 01:33:32,090
can move into these other areas which

1864
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:35,750
are our portals into this hollow genetic

1865
01:33:41,650 --> 01:33:39,890
reality that is the more expanded ah you

1866
01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:41,660
know you could call it the Akashic

1867
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:43,310
record you could call it you know just

1868
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:46,490
the entire cosmos as far as all

1869
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:50,290
dimensions and as far as the the

1870
01:33:54,850 --> 01:33:52,810
connection with with the

1871
01:33:59,860 --> 01:33:54,860
extraterrestrials the most important

1872
01:34:03,250 --> 01:33:59,870
thing to remember is that a lot of the

1873
01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:03,260
wisdom that they have is is really

1874
01:34:09,340 --> 01:34:05,840
simple and it's really easy to

1875
01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:09,350
understand because every single thing in

1876
01:34:15,330 --> 01:34:12,550
the universe carries the same al

1877
01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:15,340
rhythms and these algorithms are within

1878
01:34:20,430 --> 01:34:18,580
sacred geometry and they're the same

1879
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:20,440
algorithms that we use for coding

1880
01:34:24,330 --> 01:34:22,480
computers and the things that we see

1881
01:34:26,670 --> 01:34:24,340
that create the patterns on turtle

1882
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:26,680
shells and you know all of these things

1883
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:32,290
like you know for instance pi 3.14 so

1884
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:35,770
once we understand these codes and we

1885
01:34:40,830 --> 01:34:39,370
understand this wave which is actually

1886
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:40,840
you know and understand these different

1887
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:43,570
waves of consciousness we can really

1888
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:46,480
truly learn to listen and be a receiver

1889
01:34:51,870 --> 01:34:49,570
of interdimensional communication

1890
01:34:56,730 --> 01:34:51,880
because a lot of it is very subtle and

1891
01:34:58,710 --> 01:34:56,740
so in order to be able to receive it you

1892
01:35:02,040 --> 01:34:58,720
have to really open up your ability to

1893
01:35:03,900 --> 01:35:02,050
listen with all of your senses is this

1894
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:03,910
dimension around us all the time and

1895
01:35:08,150 --> 01:35:05,890
we're just not on the right frequency

1896
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:08,160
it's there anyway

1897
01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:11,110
you know I want to bring up because you

1898
01:35:16,290 --> 01:35:13,300
know I can't it's so hard to summarize

1899
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:16,300
such complicated things that I wasn't at

1900
01:35:21,810 --> 01:35:18,850
same time um but there is a really

1901
01:35:24,690 --> 01:35:21,820
beautiful book that I found really

1902
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:24,700
summarized it and it's David R Hopkins

1903
01:35:29,250 --> 01:35:27,010
power versus force and he talks about a

1904
01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:29,260
scale of consciousness and if you look

1905
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:30,670
at the scale of consciousness it

1906
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:33,790
completely aligns with the chakra system

1907
01:35:39,210 --> 01:35:36,490
and really what it's about is it's a

1908
01:35:40,770 --> 01:35:39,220
scale from one to a thousand and uses a

1909
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:40,780
technique called applied kinesiology

1910
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:43,890
which is you know you you test strong

1911
01:35:50,370 --> 01:35:47,500
when something is out of certain

1912
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:50,380
vibrations you can test where it's at

1913
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:53,530
and within this you can basically when

1914
01:35:57,450 --> 01:35:55,210
you're in a certain vibration for

1915
01:35:59,720 --> 01:35:57,460
instance when you're in a 500 or higher

1916
01:36:03,300 --> 01:35:59,730
which is like the feelings of love

1917
01:36:07,050 --> 01:36:03,310
acceptance courage um when you're in

1918
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:07,060
those vibrations you're able to be a

1919
01:36:14,010 --> 01:36:10,150
receiver of higher dimensional energies

1920
01:36:17,190 --> 01:36:14,020
when you're in the lower field um for

1921
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:17,200
instance like the average person on the

1922
01:36:22,860 --> 01:36:20,800
planet ranks at about a 240 so sometimes

1923
01:36:24,750 --> 01:36:22,870
a little lower than that if you were to

1924
01:36:26,229 --> 01:36:24,760
muscle test I actually a muscle test

1925
01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:26,239
Donald Trump right when he

1926
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:29,119
is about elected used about a 1 150 and

1927
01:36:37,750 --> 01:36:33,650
so 150 is around the area of like anger

1928
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:37,760
and shame and pride if you were looking

1929
01:36:42,279 --> 01:36:40,070
at like emotions that were attached to

1930
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:42,289
it so he doesn't really I mean he may be

1931
01:36:48,189 --> 01:36:45,679
a very intelligent man but based on his

1932
01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:48,199
overall collective vibration he's not

1933
01:36:53,049 --> 01:36:49,940
going to have the ability to do the kind

1934
01:36:56,319 --> 01:36:53,059
of travel that someone who is at a 500

1935
01:36:59,799 --> 01:36:56,329
is which is the cross point and if you

1936
01:37:01,450 --> 01:36:59,809
look at like other scales of systems

1937
01:37:03,850 --> 01:37:01,460
like mystical traditions they talked

1938
01:37:07,870 --> 01:37:03,860
about this with the karmic scale of the

1939
01:37:10,330 --> 01:37:07,880
scale of balance like the 50% you know

1940
01:37:12,279 --> 01:37:10,340
love and balance and and all those

1941
01:37:17,649 --> 01:37:12,289
things so if that makes sense

1942
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:17,659
it does it truly does and I have read so

1943
01:37:27,339 --> 01:37:20,650
much where the experience and listen to

1944
01:37:29,979 --> 01:37:27,349
with a DMT that the the travel down it's

1945
01:37:34,180 --> 01:37:29,989
very geometric and and and the worlds

1946
01:37:36,879 --> 01:37:34,190
are very similar for everybody and and

1947
01:37:39,779 --> 01:37:36,889
the the creatures and the end and the

1948
01:37:43,239 --> 01:37:39,789
the beings that they encounter are all

1949
01:37:46,839 --> 01:37:43,249
very very similar to the point where

1950
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:46,849
there are a nearly exact and it seems to

1951
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:48,800
me that they are actually going to

1952
01:37:56,620 --> 01:37:53,050
another dimension and visiting that is

1953
01:37:59,169 --> 01:37:56,630
is that is that what is happening it you

1954
01:38:03,819 --> 01:37:59,179
know what I mean it's so precise so

1955
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:03,829
precise absolutely and the way I see it

1956
01:38:11,470 --> 01:38:08,480
is when you um and this is why real

1957
01:38:13,660 --> 01:38:11,480
biohacking is so important the you have

1958
01:38:17,020 --> 01:38:13,670
all these energy receptors in your body

1959
01:38:19,779 --> 01:38:17,030
besides your chakras and in like the

1960
01:38:22,060 --> 01:38:19,789
Chinese medicine they call it um you

1961
01:38:24,759 --> 01:38:22,070
know like the Acura acupuncture points

1962
01:38:28,569 --> 01:38:24,769
or in Indian cosmology I think they call

1963
01:38:31,060 --> 01:38:28,579
it gennady's and these points get buried

1964
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:31,070
up with all the toxins the chemtrails

1965
01:38:38,020 --> 01:38:34,130
and fluoridated water which they've

1966
01:38:39,380 --> 01:38:38,030
shown calcifies the pineal gland so when

1967
01:38:42,140 --> 01:38:39,390
you're traveling in these

1968
01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:42,150
mentions think of it this way like you

1969
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:44,310
have 20/20 vision or maybe you don't

1970
01:38:50,210 --> 01:38:47,520
have 20/20 vision in this dimension but

1971
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:50,220
you have a good vision but your pineal

1972
01:38:55,130 --> 01:38:51,930
gland is your eyeball in these other

1973
01:38:57,740 --> 01:38:55,140
dimensions and many of us have really

1974
01:38:59,360 --> 01:38:57,750
poor eyesight in our in our pineal gland

1975
01:39:02,150 --> 01:38:59,370
and so what we see are like these

1976
01:39:04,730 --> 01:39:02,160
patchwork of these dimensions like we

1977
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:04,740
might see a shape come forward we still

1978
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:07,050
might be able to use our other faculties

1979
01:39:12,170 --> 01:39:10,050
like a blind person would to be able to

1980
01:39:17,620 --> 01:39:12,180
get information about the dimension that

1981
01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:17,630
we're in interesting the and what about

1982
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:21,360
micro dosing because that that's another

1983
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:26,210
term that I hear constantly right now

1984
01:39:32,090 --> 01:39:29,360
what is that exactly mean it makes sense

1985
01:39:34,190 --> 01:39:32,100
you know when you read the word micro

1986
01:39:36,250 --> 01:39:34,200
dosing it's a small dose but but

1987
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:36,260
actually what is it

1988
01:39:42,980 --> 01:39:40,080
so micro dosing is taking a sub

1989
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:42,990
perceptual amount usually about 1/10 of

1990
01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:46,650
what a normal dose would be of you know

1991
01:39:51,020 --> 01:39:48,900
some form of psychedelic LSD and

1992
01:39:54,380 --> 01:39:51,030
psilocybin right now are the most talked

1993
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:54,390
about but there are other things such as

1994
01:39:59,240 --> 01:39:57,600
San Pedro that you can also micro dose

1995
01:40:01,880 --> 01:39:59,250
with and each of them has a different

1996
01:40:05,630 --> 01:40:01,890
effect so for instance LSD is really

1997
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:05,640
profound for mental focus helping to

1998
01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:08,430
create new pathways to increase

1999
01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:11,280
creativity and what we've found in

2000
01:40:15,970 --> 01:40:13,710
studies to the brain is that it actually

2001
01:40:20,090 --> 01:40:15,980
stimulates different parts of the brain

2002
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:20,100
so it actually is creating new thought

2003
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:24,330
patterns within the mind the kidney

2004
01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:28,250
micro dose with DMT if it's a 20-minute

2005
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:29,520
session

2006
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:31,410
what would can you micro dose with the

2007
01:40:38,180 --> 01:40:36,000
DMT you can microdose with DMT so I'm

2008
01:40:41,150 --> 01:40:38,190
the thing I love about micro dosing is

2009
01:40:43,970 --> 01:40:41,160
it's about building a relationship with

2010
01:40:46,430 --> 01:40:43,980
that medicine I'm really bringing in the

2011
01:40:48,020 --> 01:40:46,440
spirit of the medicine really working

2012
01:40:49,970 --> 01:40:48,030
with it and when you think about it you

2013
01:40:52,490 --> 01:40:49,980
might have a really incredible journey

2014
01:40:52,940 --> 01:40:52,500
taking what you know like Tara I think

2015
01:40:55,190 --> 01:40:52,950
it's Darren's

2016
01:40:56,900 --> 01:40:55,200
the Kennedy says heroic dose like a

2017
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:56,910
heroic dose of mushrooms you might have

2018
01:41:00,650 --> 01:40:58,560
a incredible experience

2019
01:41:02,330 --> 01:41:00,660
but what percentage of that are you

2020
01:41:05,660 --> 01:41:02,340
actually bringing into your everyday

2021
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:05,670
life if you bring the psychedelic into

2022
01:41:10,250 --> 01:41:07,650
your everyday life or the plant medicine

2023
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:10,260
into your everyday life it's more easy

2024
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:13,050
for you to really Forge those mental

2025
01:41:18,020 --> 01:41:15,810
pathways and really create new patterns

2026
01:41:20,530 --> 01:41:18,030
in your life and it's great for people

2027
01:41:23,780 --> 01:41:20,540
with depression great for people with

2028
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:23,790
PTSD other things I would say there are

2029
01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:26,370
certain combinations for instance if

2030
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:29,670
someone has really severe anxiety then

2031
01:41:33,860 --> 01:41:31,650
it may not be a good idea to like

2032
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:33,870
microdose on LSD because since it's a

2033
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:35,610
stimulant it's like drinking coffee

2034
01:41:38,660 --> 01:41:37,890
might make you a little jittery right

2035
01:41:42,170 --> 01:41:38,670
right right

2036
01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:42,180
the when it comes to Terence Mckenna

2037
01:41:49,490 --> 01:41:46,800
now I've said this a lot there are there

2038
01:41:51,770 --> 01:41:49,500
are a couple of phases with Terence one

2039
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:51,780
where I think he was extremely

2040
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:54,060
articulate and intelligent and he made

2041
01:41:59,390 --> 01:41:56,850
some incredible discoveries and and and

2042
01:42:00,770 --> 01:41:59,400
advanced some theories but then there

2043
01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:00,780
was another part of Terence where I

2044
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:03,390
think he just liked to get really really

2045
01:42:10,910 --> 01:42:08,250
high I just think he enjoyed what what

2046
01:42:14,290 --> 01:42:10,920
the experience brought him to as well

2047
01:42:17,930 --> 01:42:14,300
what did you get out of Terence Mckenna

2048
01:42:20,380 --> 01:42:17,940
um yeah I felt like the dimensions that

2049
01:42:23,870 --> 01:42:20,390
he was exploring was more of like

2050
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:23,880
machine elves and and things like that

2051
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:27,890
it didn't really feel like there was a

2052
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:30,930
desire a deeper prayer within it like a

2053
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:32,610
deeper intention it was more like oh

2054
01:42:37,730 --> 01:42:34,890
let's see what comes up and I think the

2055
01:42:39,710 --> 01:42:37,740
key that we want to bring into all use

2056
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:39,720
with these medicines is to know that

2057
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:42,090
they are potentiate errs and so you

2058
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:43,770
don't want to just go in and be like oh

2059
01:42:48,860 --> 01:42:46,050
yeah I'm trying to find the you know 5th

2060
01:42:51,230 --> 01:42:48,870
dimension or whatever you want to have

2061
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:51,240
specific intentions for the healing that

2062
01:42:55,580 --> 01:42:53,010
you're looking for or for discovering

2063
01:42:57,410 --> 01:42:55,590
your life's purpose all of those things

2064
01:42:59,900 --> 01:42:57,420
and then it's going to take you to those

2065
01:43:03,110 --> 01:42:59,910
places based on what you need and the

2066
01:43:04,820 --> 01:43:03,120
medicine is smarter in the sense that it

2067
01:43:06,770 --> 01:43:04,830
will take you to sometimes places where

2068
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:06,780
you don't want to go that you would

2069
01:43:10,820 --> 01:43:08,880
normally I look at and you know at first

2070
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:10,830
you might be like oh this is not fun I

2071
01:43:13,790 --> 01:43:12,420
don't want to be looking at that but

2072
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,800
then later as you integrate the

2073
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:15,360
experience you're like oh wow I needed

2074
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:17,730
to really accept that part of myself now

2075
01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:22,890
you've done over 300 of you facilitated

2076
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:25,560
over 300 of these toad ceremonies that's

2077
01:43:33,980 --> 01:43:28,010
that's that's quite a large number

2078
01:43:37,310 --> 01:43:33,990
typically who is who is participating in

2079
01:43:39,950 --> 01:43:37,320
these ceremonies first time experience

2080
01:43:45,620 --> 01:43:39,960
or is it somebody that's returning for

2081
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:45,630
self and continuing on the journey you

2082
01:43:51,770 --> 01:43:47,520
know typically what is what is going on

2083
01:43:54,890 --> 01:43:51,780
there so um a lot of the people that

2084
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:54,900
work with with the five Meo DMT

2085
01:44:00,590 --> 01:43:58,560
specifically they want something that's

2086
01:44:03,260 --> 01:44:00,600
taking them deeper and they've heard

2087
01:44:05,330 --> 01:44:03,270
that this is you know the most powerful

2088
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:05,340
and Theia genic technology many people

2089
01:44:09,860 --> 01:44:07,770
even quote the best experience of their

2090
01:44:14,110 --> 01:44:09,870
entire life and I heard that so many

2091
01:44:15,710 --> 01:44:14,120
times even before I did it myself that I

2092
01:44:17,420 --> 01:44:15,720
was like wow

2093
01:44:18,860 --> 01:44:17,430
whatever this is like how can it be the

2094
01:44:21,170 --> 01:44:18,870
best experience of your life and only

2095
01:44:25,010 --> 01:44:21,180
last 20 minutes you know I remember when

2096
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:25,020
we lost an hour total so the people that

2097
01:44:30,110 --> 01:44:28,650
come are typically people that you know

2098
01:44:33,410 --> 01:44:30,120
are kind of in the know like for

2099
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:33,420
instance Tim Ferriss wrote on in his

2100
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:35,370
book tools of titans he actually

2101
01:44:42,610 --> 01:44:39,570
interviewed Martine Polanco and dr. Dan

2102
01:44:45,170 --> 01:44:42,620
angle of crossroads treatment center and

2103
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:45,180
you know the bio hackers are like this

2104
01:44:50,750 --> 01:44:47,690
is this is the tool of biohacking mavens

2105
01:44:52,490 --> 01:44:50,760
so it's the people that that are really

2106
01:44:55,190 --> 01:44:52,500
going out there and researching like

2107
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,200
okay what are the differences between a

2108
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,880
mushroom experience and what's the

2109
01:44:59,900 --> 01:44:59,280
difference between em and also what

2110
01:45:02,450 --> 01:44:59,910
word-of-mouth

2111
01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:02,460
you know like who these circles you know

2112
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:04,320
like who are these people surrounding

2113
01:45:07,700 --> 01:45:06,090
themselves with and that they're kind of

2114
01:45:09,620 --> 01:45:07,710
circulating within those groups like

2115
01:45:11,210 --> 01:45:09,630
people that are reading you know Tim

2116
01:45:13,460 --> 01:45:11,220
Ferriss book are listening to Joe

2117
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:13,470
Rogan's podcaster right like that

2118
01:45:19,690 --> 01:45:16,690
right right which I have by the way

2119
01:45:23,890 --> 01:45:19,700
absolutely well that was that was and

2120
01:45:26,340 --> 01:45:23,900
oddly enough that was something that

2121
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:26,350
kind of kicked it into high gear for me

2122
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:29,330
was listening to Joe Rogan talk about

2123
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:31,040
his experiences with this and of course

2124
01:45:36,570 --> 01:45:33,440
you know I've interviewed Graham Hancock

2125
01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:36,580
a few times and and spoke to him about

2126
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:41,030
you know the not only their experiences

2127
01:45:47,050 --> 01:45:44,870
but the thing is when you hear from them

2128
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:47,060
speaking out to the masses right we're

2129
01:45:53,490 --> 01:45:49,610
talking about a single point firing out

2130
01:45:56,620 --> 01:45:53,500
to millions of people that their

2131
01:46:01,240 --> 01:45:56,630
experiences not only were very similar

2132
01:46:04,410 --> 01:46:01,250
but changed them right change them as a

2133
01:46:08,350 --> 01:46:04,420
person there is a before-and-after with

2134
01:46:12,940 --> 01:46:08,360
them is that what happens also when when

2135
01:46:15,459 --> 01:46:12,950
you do a ceremony absolutely I the

2136
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:15,469
biggest gift I mean this is why I do the

2137
01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:17,840
work I do even though you know I have to

2138
01:46:24,430 --> 01:46:21,790
go to other countries to do it is that

2139
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:24,440
you know to see the look on the face of

2140
01:46:29,470 --> 01:46:26,960
a 72 year old man who's laughing like a

2141
01:46:31,570 --> 01:46:29,480
child and has tears in his eye and

2142
01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:31,580
saying it's never too late it's never

2143
01:46:37,690 --> 01:46:34,550
too late or you know just to see

2144
01:46:40,330 --> 01:46:37,700
somebody who you know is just in awe and

2145
01:46:42,940 --> 01:46:40,340
just completely connected and says I

2146
01:46:46,209 --> 01:46:42,950
just cannot believe how big the heart of

2147
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:46,219
God is you know just some of the things

2148
01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:48,050
that come out of people's mouths after

2149
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:49,870
ceremony and the look on their face it's

2150
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:52,730
you just can't fake it it's the most

2151
01:46:58,660 --> 01:46:54,290
beautiful thing a human could ever

2152
01:47:02,080 --> 01:46:58,670
experience do now if it's a twenty

2153
01:47:06,910 --> 01:47:02,090
minute slog did to some people do it a

2154
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:06,920
few times a day or is it just once so um

2155
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:07,730
it's interesting

2156
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:11,030
Dennis McKenna turn to brother has done

2157
01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:14,690
some studies on tryptamines including

2158
01:47:21,310 --> 01:47:17,270
DMT you know DMT containing substances

2159
01:47:24,340 --> 01:47:21,320
and says that there is a exponential

2160
01:47:26,110 --> 01:47:24,350
effect to doing three of them like in a

2161
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:26,120
series so that would include ayahuasca

2162
01:47:29,980 --> 01:47:29,090
as well right so you can't do that but

2163
01:47:32,110 --> 01:47:29,990
some people have a

2164
01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:32,120
really intense experience and they end

2165
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,400
which is good um to where they're like

2166
01:47:40,330 --> 01:47:36,560
I'm good I think I think ones good

2167
01:47:42,430 --> 01:47:40,340
enough for me so it you know they want

2168
01:47:44,740 --> 01:47:42,440
to do it every week and some people want

2169
01:47:50,530 --> 01:47:44,750
to do it you know once a month or once

2170
01:47:54,130 --> 01:47:50,540
every few months the the ayahuasca the

2171
01:47:56,830 --> 01:47:54,140
typical ayahuasca jungle situation where

2172
01:47:59,560 --> 01:47:56,840
it's it's a real ceremony you know in in

2173
01:48:02,080 --> 01:47:59,570
one of the cities or towns down in

2174
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:02,090
Central or South America how long is

2175
01:48:06,220 --> 01:48:04,310
that session I've heard different people

2176
01:48:10,900 --> 01:48:06,230
say different things like it's eight

2177
01:48:15,250 --> 01:48:10,910
hours it's 24 hours it's two days what

2178
01:48:19,690 --> 01:48:15,260
what is going on there so if you're

2179
01:48:23,050 --> 01:48:19,700
doing an ayahuasca um you know ceremony

2180
01:48:26,260 --> 01:48:23,060
in the jungle usually because people are

2181
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,270
flying all the way down I'm seeing it

2182
01:48:30,930 --> 01:48:27,920
becoming more and more popular for

2183
01:48:32,770 --> 01:48:30,940
people to go and do like even up to nine

2184
01:48:35,710 --> 01:48:32,780
ceremonies which I don't know how you

2185
01:48:37,900 --> 01:48:35,720
could do that much but like like nine

2186
01:48:41,650 --> 01:48:37,910
days straight of journeying with the

2187
01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:41,660
medicine so you could do one night you

2188
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:43,670
could do two nights you could do three

2189
01:48:49,090 --> 01:48:46,490
three is a very common number although

2190
01:48:50,830 --> 01:48:49,100
there are a lot of people that are doing

2191
01:48:55,330 --> 01:48:50,840
five day journeys and so if you were

2192
01:48:57,310 --> 01:48:55,340
doing a one day journey you would drink

2193
01:49:00,490 --> 01:48:57,320
the medicine late in the evening and you

2194
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,500
would feel the facts usually people fall

2195
01:49:05,770 --> 01:49:02,960
asleep or tend to drift off after eight

2196
01:49:07,090 --> 01:49:05,780
hours but some people can fully feel the

2197
01:49:10,750 --> 01:49:07,100
effects of the medicine if they're

2198
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:10,760
sensitive up to 14 hours and then you

2199
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:12,170
know usually they take it easy during

2200
01:49:15,790 --> 01:49:14,090
the day and if they're planning on

2201
01:49:17,260 --> 01:49:15,800
taking medicine again which you don't

2202
01:49:19,390 --> 01:49:17,270
usually go out to the jungle just to

2203
01:49:21,940 --> 01:49:19,400
drink it one night usually do a few

2204
01:49:23,820 --> 01:49:21,950
nights of medicine so then you would you

2205
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:23,830
know drink it again another night and

2206
01:49:31,780 --> 01:49:28,010
you know so on so forth very interesting

2207
01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:31,790
now when you are do you do a

2208
01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:35,470
pre-interview do you make sure that

2209
01:49:39,490 --> 01:49:38,270
everybody is is on the same page and

2210
01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:39,500
they know what they're doing and have

2211
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:41,360
you ever told somebody you know what

2212
01:49:47,979 --> 01:49:43,610
this may not be for you at least

2213
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:47,989
not right now absolutely I mean there's

2214
01:49:51,250 --> 01:49:49,610
so many different things to take into

2215
01:49:53,229 --> 01:49:51,260
consideration if the person that's had a

2216
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:53,239
history of manic depression if they're

2217
01:49:58,990 --> 01:49:54,770
currently on pharmaceuticals

2218
01:50:01,090 --> 01:49:59,000
most of these psychedelics interact with

2219
01:50:03,609 --> 01:50:01,100
MAOI inhibitors so that's pretty much

2220
01:50:05,919 --> 01:50:03,619
all antidepressants and the issue that

2221
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:05,929
you come across with antidepressants is

2222
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:08,239
and this is something you have to be

2223
01:50:12,580 --> 01:50:09,650
really careful of and that's why I'm

2224
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:12,590
sharing it with you is you need to have

2225
01:50:17,859 --> 01:50:16,010
a professional we new offer them if

2226
01:50:19,780 --> 01:50:17,869
you're planning on going off of them you

2227
01:50:23,590 --> 01:50:19,790
can't just stop taking them cold turkey

2228
01:50:26,500 --> 01:50:23,600
many people become suicidal some come

2229
01:50:28,750 --> 01:50:26,510
from going off of the SSRIs and then

2230
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:28,760
they think okay well I'm going to do

2231
01:50:32,169 --> 01:50:30,080
this because I need to go to this

2232
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:32,179
ayahuasca ceremony in the jungle and

2233
01:50:37,899 --> 01:50:35,210
then they just have an incredibly rough

2234
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:37,909
time and it's I don't think it's healthy

2235
01:50:43,149 --> 01:50:40,730
so it's just something to take into

2236
01:50:45,609 --> 01:50:43,159
consideration I also look at you know if

2237
01:50:47,919 --> 01:50:45,619
you're smoking DMT they have to have

2238
01:50:50,950 --> 01:50:47,929
healthy lungs number one and they can't

2239
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:50,960
have you know any like you know asthma

2240
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:53,810
or you know anything that would prevent

2241
01:51:00,970 --> 01:50:57,650
them from inhaling the smoke um you know

2242
01:51:05,979 --> 01:51:00,980
and then with the iboga it's a QT

2243
01:51:08,620 --> 01:51:05,989
prolong it increases the length between

2244
01:51:11,140 --> 01:51:08,630
the wave of the heartbeat so it

2245
01:51:14,070 --> 01:51:11,150
lengthens out the heartbeat and so for

2246
01:51:17,020 --> 01:51:14,080
somebody that already has a naturally

2247
01:51:19,660 --> 01:51:17,030
prolonged QT if it falls within a

2248
01:51:21,250 --> 01:51:19,670
certain range then they're not a good

2249
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:21,260
candidate for the medicine so there's

2250
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:23,330
different medical screening processes

2251
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:25,520
for instance with someone who's doing

2252
01:51:31,450 --> 01:51:28,730
iboga you would want to go get an EKG

2253
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:31,460
and then look at that and see if they

2254
01:51:36,430 --> 01:51:33,670
fall within the high-risk group and then

2255
01:51:38,350 --> 01:51:36,440
also it's helpful to get a liver panel

2256
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,360
and just make sure that the livers in a

2257
01:51:43,540 --> 01:51:40,159
healthy state but usually the liver is

2258
01:51:45,820 --> 01:51:43,550
fine um just you know someone who maybe

2259
01:51:47,649 --> 01:51:45,830
who has had you know maybe more on a

2260
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:47,659
high-risk group and pretty much anybody

2261
01:51:52,750 --> 01:51:50,449
with high blood pressure it's not really

2262
01:51:55,379 --> 01:51:52,760
a great idea unless it's you know just

2263
01:51:56,979 --> 01:51:55,389
borderline high and actually a woman who

2264
01:51:58,930 --> 01:51:56,989
barely had

2265
01:52:00,910 --> 01:51:58,940
I allowed pressure who came to retreat

2266
01:52:02,830 --> 01:52:00,920
and after the retreat she said her blood

2267
01:52:04,839 --> 01:52:02,840
pressure went back to normal and I was I

2268
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:04,849
was surprised myself because I didn't

2269
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:06,530
realize it could have that effect on the

2270
01:52:11,859 --> 01:52:09,530
blood pressure very interesting very

2271
01:52:14,350 --> 01:52:11,869
interesting I'm tweeting this out now

2272
01:52:19,029 --> 01:52:14,360
Tricia I need to this is a live radio

2273
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:19,039
broadcast French media is now reporting

2274
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:23,210
that Prince Philip has died at the age

2275
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:28,480
of 95 I am tweeting this out now

2276
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:32,719
breaking news French media reporting

2277
01:52:43,779 --> 01:52:41,690
that Prince Philip has died and it's you

2278
01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:43,789
know this is part of life it's live

2279
01:52:53,529 --> 01:52:47,510
radio we are now this is coming straight

2280
01:52:57,009 --> 01:52:53,539
from I'm putting this out now aged 95

2281
01:53:00,040 --> 01:52:57,019
and this is going to start to break now

2282
01:53:01,750 --> 01:53:00,050
throughout this show tonight but the

2283
01:53:05,859 --> 01:53:01,760
royal family has been pulled to

2284
01:53:09,399 --> 01:53:05,869
Buckingham Palace and it looks like they

2285
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:09,409
are meeting now Wow yeah pretty pretty

2286
01:53:18,430 --> 01:53:14,090
well 95 years old though uh there you go

2287
01:53:20,589 --> 01:53:18,440
okay I've tweeted that out and pretty

2288
01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:20,599
wild you know what you know what's

2289
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:23,360
strange during this show Tricia you know

2290
01:53:27,489 --> 01:53:25,610
because it's a it's a long broadcast and

2291
01:53:30,370 --> 01:53:27,499
we broadcast you know four nights a week

2292
01:53:31,930 --> 01:53:30,380
and the other broadcast that I do on on

2293
01:53:34,660 --> 01:53:31,940
other network too as well

2294
01:53:37,540 --> 01:53:34,670
that breaking news always happens on

2295
01:53:43,029 --> 01:53:37,550
this show it's it's just a big thing and

2296
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:43,039
and here we are doing this I will come

2297
01:53:46,330 --> 01:53:44,239
back and we're going to take live phone

2298
01:53:48,189 --> 01:53:46,340
calls here in a minute everybody I will

2299
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:48,199
open up the phone line so everybody can

2300
01:53:52,089 --> 01:53:50,510
call them with your questions for Tricia

2301
01:54:00,129 --> 01:53:52,099
three two three eight two five five zero

2302
01:54:04,569 --> 01:54:00,139
four five but with that the preparations

2303
01:54:08,020 --> 01:54:04,579
for not only the Queen but for for

2304
01:54:09,759 --> 01:54:08,030
Prince Philip they have to be ready

2305
01:54:12,250 --> 01:54:09,769
right at a moment's notice

2306
01:54:14,649 --> 01:54:12,260
at their age right the press release is

2307
01:54:17,859 --> 01:54:14,659
already done right there all they are

2308
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:17,869
going to do is is launch this because it

2309
01:54:24,189 --> 01:54:20,210
could happen you know at any minute of

2310
01:54:26,979 --> 01:54:24,199
any day for them to get so far up there

2311
01:54:28,629 --> 01:54:26,989
in years but there you go French media

2312
01:54:32,290 --> 01:54:28,639
is now reporting that Prince Philip has

2313
01:54:36,489 --> 01:54:32,300
passed at the age of 95 never made it to

2314
01:54:38,770 --> 01:54:36,499
King this is it never mated that far I'm

2315
01:54:41,290 --> 01:54:38,780
not making light of it he's 95 years old

2316
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:41,300
you know they're you know it's just it

2317
01:54:46,660 --> 01:54:44,050
was going to happen any day now so ok

2318
01:54:49,299 --> 01:54:46,670
back to and we're going to open up the

2319
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:49,309
phone lines 3 to 3 8 2 5 5 0 or 4 or 5

2320
01:54:55,810 --> 01:54:52,249
everybody get ready for that and get

2321
01:55:01,000 --> 01:54:55,820
your questions going I want to move on

2322
01:55:04,330 --> 01:55:01,010
to another Devon Definition shaman can

2323
01:55:06,189 --> 01:55:04,340
anything how do you even select a shaman

2324
01:55:10,689 --> 01:55:06,199
how do you trust them and who is

2325
01:55:14,770 --> 01:55:10,699
anointing a shaman how do you get to be

2326
01:55:16,870 --> 01:55:14,780
a shaman it's so interesting that you

2327
01:55:22,870 --> 01:55:16,880
say that because I feel like there's a

2328
01:55:25,390 --> 01:55:22,880
lot of like kind of like negative

2329
01:55:29,739 --> 01:55:25,400
feelings in the psychedelic community

2330
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:29,749
around the word shaman or facilitator

2331
01:55:36,250 --> 01:55:33,170
and the true thing is a real shaman

2332
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:36,260
doesn't call himself a shaman it's

2333
01:55:42,479 --> 01:55:40,639
useful for distinction of the work that

2334
01:55:44,799 --> 01:55:42,489
they're doing meaning a more ceremonial

2335
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:44,809
context sometimes I use the word shaman

2336
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:48,050
because it helps to distinct that that

2337
01:55:53,799 --> 01:55:50,980
person is working in a more ceremonial

2338
01:55:58,209 --> 01:55:53,809
context versus having to overly explain

2339
01:56:00,489 --> 01:55:58,219
something but a real shaman is someone

2340
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:00,499
who chooses this as a life path and

2341
01:56:05,770 --> 01:56:03,679
people that have worked in the space of

2342
01:56:08,169 --> 01:56:05,780
healing maybe not with psychedelic

2343
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:08,179
medicines but in general for you know

2344
01:56:15,399 --> 01:56:10,880
typically I would say you know 10 years

2345
01:56:16,750 --> 01:56:15,409
is is a really good number as far as

2346
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:16,760
like experience think of it like who

2347
01:56:19,629 --> 01:56:18,110
would you want to be your doctor who

2348
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:19,639
would you want to be your psychologist

2349
01:56:23,530 --> 01:56:21,920
you're going to want someone who is has

2350
01:56:26,170 --> 01:56:23,540
put in the hours and

2351
01:56:27,850 --> 01:56:26,180
in order to be a psychologist you have

2352
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:27,860
to have a certain amount of board hours

2353
01:56:33,660 --> 01:56:30,800
and I see the difference in you know

2354
01:56:36,460 --> 01:56:33,670
there are certain facilitators that

2355
01:56:39,070 --> 01:56:36,470
haven't really gotten those hours in and

2356
01:56:41,710 --> 01:56:39,080
you can see in the way that they

2357
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:41,720
facilitate ceremony and you know just

2358
01:56:46,030 --> 01:56:43,850
because when you're on the path you're

2359
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:46,040
also doing work on yourself like you're

2360
01:56:50,260 --> 01:56:48,080
you're dissolving your own ego and

2361
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:50,270
everyone's got one I'm sorry it just

2362
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:51,890
shows up in different ways and different

2363
01:56:57,190 --> 01:56:54,290
people like I have an ego everyone has

2364
01:56:59,380 --> 01:56:57,200
an ego and so the more that we do the

2365
01:57:01,780 --> 01:56:59,390
work it's all about purification every

2366
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:01,790
sandwich that I sit in I'm receiving

2367
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:04,970
healing I'm getting purified I'm not

2368
01:57:10,450 --> 01:57:07,730
doing any of the work it is all the

2369
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:10,460
spirit world and the medicine I'm just

2370
01:57:14,170 --> 01:57:12,560
there holding space and creating the

2371
01:57:17,170 --> 01:57:14,180
container and making sure the person

2372
01:57:19,450 --> 01:57:17,180
feels safe let's take a break right here

2373
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:19,460
we've got breaking news going on phone

2374
01:57:24,940 --> 01:57:22,310
lines are open if you're on hold

2375
01:57:26,740 --> 01:57:24,950
stay right there you'll be up next on

2376
01:57:29,650 --> 01:57:26,750
fade to black our guest tonight Trisha

2377
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:29,660
Eastman we are talking biohacking this

2378
01:57:36,919 --> 01:57:31,130
is fade to black I'm your computers

2379
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:40,109
five - Rob Halford omitting God on Jimmy

2380
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:47,920
Church radio.com kgr a radio intelligent

2381
01:57:53,220 --> 01:57:50,800
talk hired a nurse let's get this man to

2382
01:57:55,530 --> 01:57:53,230
the ER staff right away doctor we see

2383
01:57:57,930 --> 01:57:55,540
this every day heart attack or angina

2384
01:58:00,479 --> 01:57:57,940
pain due to blocked and clogged arteries

2385
01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:00,489
chelation can remove obstructions or

2386
01:58:04,350 --> 01:58:02,440
blockages from arteries and help avoid

2387
01:58:07,020 --> 01:58:04,360
painful and expensive surgery

2388
01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:07,030
now there's angiogram it's a liquid oral

2389
01:58:11,069 --> 01:58:08,710
chelation product that you take with

2390
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:11,079
juice you start to feel the results fast

2391
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:13,690
angio Prem increases blood flow all over

2392
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:15,610
the body and that means more energy and

2393
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:17,679
strength to take on the day with less

2394
01:58:23,339 --> 01:58:20,530
aches and pain 60 years of research has

2395
01:58:26,069 --> 01:58:23,349
gone into chelation and angiogram is the

2396
01:58:28,050 --> 01:58:26,079
result a safe and easy way to unblock

2397
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:28,060
your veins and arteries from buildup

2398
01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:30,250
that slow circulation taking dr. Jones

2399
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:31,840
please report to the emergency room

2400
01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:32,290
right away

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I'm serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. Bush why fade to black because

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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welcome back fade to black if you're

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watching on the bunker cam you saw me

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rush in here sit down put the microphone

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around and just go live that's how we do

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02:01:25,540 --> 02:01:22,310
it I was just talking to Reid in the

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hallway and about principal I can't

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02:01:30,850 --> 02:01:28,580
confirm this story but it's out there

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02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:30,860
Prince Phillip passing away at the age

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of 90 talk of competing goes to he's 95

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what's the big deal she's right there

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02:01:42,460 --> 02:01:41,120
you go okay Trisha we've got some phone

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calls lined up here let's go ahead and

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02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:45,260
and head to the phones very interesting

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02:01:49,180 --> 02:01:47,210
conversation tonight and I want to thank

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02:01:52,210 --> 02:01:49,190
you in advance

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02:01:54,490 --> 02:01:52,220
just just enlightening enlightening and

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I can't say any more than that let's go

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to the phones hi you're live on fade to

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black say hi to Trisha Oh lost that call

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02:02:08,230 --> 02:02:05,930
right there okay all right and how wait

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02:02:11,500 --> 02:02:08,240
to see if that call items work please

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02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:11,510
leave a message and retrieval thank you

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02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:14,570
that's bizarre okay that's who was on

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02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:21,290
hold that was weird

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02:02:29,740 --> 02:02:27,410
all right the the connections okay all

2476
02:02:32,110 --> 02:02:29,750
right I'm everybody else stay on hold

2477
02:02:34,210 --> 02:02:32,120
I'm going to give this give this caller

2478
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one more chance or option press yeah

2479
02:02:41,710 --> 02:02:39,080
yeah weird okay all right that's weird

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02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:41,720
that calls in some kind of loop all

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right

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02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:49,760
the V the connections oh man okay hold

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02:02:54,580 --> 02:02:52,010
on for a second here I've got a problem

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02:02:57,010 --> 02:02:54,590
with my phone system okay

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02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:57,020
just hang on I got to fix this stay with

2486
02:03:08,680 --> 02:02:57,920
me

2487
02:03:13,090 --> 02:03:08,690
get rid of this call it's locking up my

2488
02:03:18,070 --> 02:03:13,100
phone system yeah it's it's locking up

2489
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:18,080
my phone system interesting okay let me

2490
02:03:33,410 --> 02:03:28,700
no no new new new new not now okay I am

2491
02:03:36,020 --> 02:03:33,420
going to do this and that got rid of it

2492
02:03:37,310 --> 02:03:36,030
okay I'm just rebooting my software

2493
02:03:41,390 --> 02:03:37,320
that's all I can do

2494
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:41,400
oh my gosh the matrix again yeah yeah

2495
02:03:53,780 --> 02:03:49,650
yeah and boom done okay the similarities

2496
02:03:58,640 --> 02:03:53,790
about what is going on here with with

2497
02:04:03,610 --> 02:03:58,650
the with the spirits on the other side I

2498
02:04:07,250 --> 02:04:03,620
often hear talk about serpents right

2499
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:07,260
cheetahs birds but everybody has seen

2500
02:04:12,650 --> 02:04:10,110
this our gods being represented that way

2501
02:04:17,570 --> 02:04:12,660
or leaders on the other side because

2502
02:04:18,980 --> 02:04:17,580
they always reference the this queen and

2503
02:04:21,070 --> 02:04:18,990
I may be using the wrong terminology

2504
02:04:23,570 --> 02:04:21,080
here but they're seeing something

2505
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:23,580
superior that is guiding them and

2506
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:26,250
speaking with them and if it's

2507
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:28,890
consistent are they all seeing the same

2508
02:04:36,980 --> 02:04:32,850
thing it's interesting that you bring

2509
02:04:40,180 --> 02:04:36,990
that up in the ayahuasca tradition they

2510
02:04:43,370 --> 02:04:40,190
use these these animal totems as a

2511
02:04:46,550 --> 02:04:43,380
representation of the four directions

2512
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:46,560
which are like the different directions

2513
02:04:51,500 --> 02:04:48,810
for instance the hummingbird is a

2514
02:04:54,260 --> 02:04:51,510
representation of the spirit the

2515
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:54,270
Kundalini is a represent eight or the

2516
02:04:59,030 --> 02:04:55,890
snake is a representation of the

2517
02:05:03,170 --> 02:04:59,040
Kundalini energy which is the south and

2518
02:05:08,270 --> 02:05:03,180
then in the Lakota Sioux tradition the

2519
02:05:12,190 --> 02:05:08,280
Eagle is the north and the bear is the

2520
02:05:13,790 --> 02:05:12,200
West and the the Jaguar is also a

2521
02:05:16,010 --> 02:05:13,800
representation in the ayahuasca

2522
02:05:19,850 --> 02:05:16,020
tradition of the West and that's a

2523
02:05:23,210 --> 02:05:19,860
representation of the healer so there's

2524
02:05:26,180 --> 02:05:23,220
definitely some symbolism within the

2525
02:05:28,700 --> 02:05:26,190
animal totems and how they represent the

2526
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:28,710
spirit world and transition that you're

2527
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:31,110
going through within the Medicine Wheel

2528
02:05:35,670 --> 02:05:33,450
is what they would call it in like the

2529
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:35,680
in the Native traditions like

2530
02:05:41,310 --> 02:05:39,370
the Native American traditions and and I

2531
02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:41,320
should say First Nations is more

2532
02:05:49,770 --> 02:05:46,510
politically correct word and as far as

2533
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:49,780
the other deities there is a commonality

2534
02:05:55,770 --> 02:05:52,450
and I've even seen this in the work that

2535
02:05:58,410 --> 02:05:55,780
I do where people will send certain

2536
02:06:02,790 --> 02:05:58,420
energies that they may refer to as like

2537
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:02,800
Christ conscious or mother Mary and and

2538
02:06:10,110 --> 02:06:05,650
other forms of deities even like Indian

2539
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:10,120
deities such as Kali or Ganesh on in

2540
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:12,250
these in the ceremonies and I feel like

2541
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:15,370
these are different gatekeepers to the

2542
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:18,880
dimensions and so their energies are

2543
02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:21,610
personified in a way that has a

2544
02:06:27,170 --> 02:06:23,470
commonality and they can look different

2545
02:06:29,970 --> 02:06:27,180
but the essence of them is picked up as

2546
02:06:32,610 --> 02:06:29,980
you know like for instance with Ganesh

2547
02:06:36,450 --> 02:06:32,620
it's this elephant so they might see an

2548
02:06:38,430 --> 02:06:36,460
elephant in the journey there's a book

2549
02:06:42,570 --> 02:06:38,440
that's really incredible about this

2550
02:06:45,870 --> 02:06:42,580
woman named Anastasia and she grew up in

2551
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:45,880
the forest of Siberia and she was just

2552
02:06:51,180 --> 02:06:48,480
completely awake had full awareness of

2553
02:06:52,980 --> 02:06:51,190
everything it's a true story and she

2554
02:06:55,050 --> 02:06:52,990
there was a whole series of books

2555
02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:55,060
written about her and she'd never read a

2556
02:06:59,130 --> 02:06:57,040
Bible she had never read a book in her

2557
02:07:01,950 --> 02:06:59,140
entire life and she knew about all of

2558
02:07:04,620 --> 02:07:01,960
these deities I'm going to try these

2559
02:07:08,510 --> 02:07:04,630
phones one more time here let's see what

2560
02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:08,520
happens hi you're live on fade to black

2561
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:14,710
you're live man you're live on fade to

2562
02:07:20,220 --> 02:07:18,970
black okay man I don't know my phones

2563
02:07:22,850 --> 02:07:20,230
are freaking out right now

2564
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:22,860
I don't know what to do about it and

2565
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:25,930
that's it I'm not I'll try it one more

2566
02:07:29,820 --> 02:07:26,530
time

2567
02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:29,830
hi you're live on fade to black and

2568
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:30,880
vaycay

2569
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:34,570
there you are some say later next to go

2570
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:38,650
hey Mark how are you how are you - I'm

2571
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:40,570
doing good say hi to Tricia what's your

2572
02:07:47,460 --> 02:07:44,290
question hi Tricia thank you so much for

2573
02:07:49,060 --> 02:07:47,470
honor of presentation tonight awesome

2574
02:07:54,130 --> 02:07:49,070
Tricia Huntley

2575
02:07:58,020 --> 02:07:54,140
I don't know about procuring these plant

2576
02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:58,030
substances I'm living in Mexico and

2577
02:08:02,500 --> 02:08:00,320
people have told me to go on the dark

2578
02:08:05,410 --> 02:08:02,510
web and you know it's not like when I

2579
02:08:07,479 --> 02:08:05,420
was in college I would just you know

2580
02:08:09,850 --> 02:08:07,489
pretty much take anything that anybody

2581
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:09,860
had but it's different these days I may

2582
02:08:16,810 --> 02:08:11,840
want to make sure that I have the right

2583
02:08:19,900 --> 02:08:16,820
dose and you know pure products and how

2584
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:19,910
do I do this okay let me let me say this

2585
02:08:23,470 --> 02:08:21,650
really quick mark and I appreciate

2586
02:08:25,660 --> 02:08:23,480
that's the question that everybody has

2587
02:08:30,660 --> 02:08:25,670
and I certainly have it myself but I

2588
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:30,670
don't want to venture into a legal issue

2589
02:08:35,580 --> 02:08:33,920
right oh yeah I don't want I don't want

2590
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:35,590
to have it I don't want to have the DEA

2591
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:38,210
yeah I don't have the DEA knocking on my

2592
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:40,610
door going dude what are you doing

2593
02:08:45,940 --> 02:08:43,850
so remember well baby is there someplace

2594
02:08:48,460 --> 02:08:45,950
you could direct me to get that

2595
02:08:51,070 --> 02:08:48,470
knowledge is our way to answer the

2596
02:08:54,670 --> 02:08:51,080
question without getting ya any arrests

2597
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:54,680
yeah churches their way you know why we

2598
02:08:59,920 --> 02:08:57,410
do this off to the air how about that

2599
02:09:02,950 --> 02:08:59,930
mark why don't you why don't you just

2600
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:02,960
send I attrition and in email or contact

2601
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:05,210
her and maybe that will clear things up

2602
02:09:12,220 --> 02:09:08,810
am I am I am I legally in a clear there

2603
02:09:15,580 --> 02:09:12,230
Tricia yeah I think you're fine and I

2604
02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:15,590
was I was just going to say um you know

2605
02:09:20,020 --> 02:09:17,650
the more that you try to seek something

2606
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:20,030
you know if you're getting a calling for

2607
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:22,130
it the medicines are really good at

2608
02:09:29,290 --> 02:09:25,370
finding you I'm just trusting no doubt

2609
02:09:31,570 --> 02:09:29,300
the right timing no time so getting

2610
02:09:34,540 --> 02:09:31,580
involved in the communities like there's

2611
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:34,550
meetup groups around like psychonaut or

2612
02:09:40,210 --> 02:09:38,090
around you know psychedelic society and

2613
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:40,220
different things like that and it's not

2614
02:09:46,300 --> 02:09:42,130
really for the purpose of procuring

2615
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:46,310
substances but once you get connected to

2616
02:09:50,500 --> 02:09:48,410
those people in the community there are

2617
02:09:52,210 --> 02:09:50,510
certain things that would happen in the

2618
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:52,220
context of a friendship relationship

2619
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:54,530
where people might share information

2620
02:10:00,430 --> 02:09:56,530
with you yeah there you go that was

2621
02:10:01,450 --> 02:10:00,440
eloquent Lee but you know because what

2622
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:01,460
you know

2623
02:10:05,340 --> 02:10:03,530
art look there's a reason why you're

2624
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:05,350
listening to the show tonight right

2625
02:10:09,610 --> 02:10:07,280
right right

2626
02:10:14,110 --> 02:10:09,620
and did you did you have another

2627
02:10:17,950 --> 02:10:14,120
question for Trisha no I don't think so

2628
02:10:22,990 --> 02:10:17,960
I did these substances when I was in

2629
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:23,000
college I was 19 and where we talked

2630
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:24,890
about a little bit I think last week or

2631
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:27,650
the week before Jimmy where it was a

2632
02:10:32,860 --> 02:10:29,570
combination of reading Robert Heinlein

2633
02:10:34,780 --> 02:10:32,870
and using second flex to completion

2634
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:34,790
oh I remember that yeah remember that

2635
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:38,210
right and simply shifted my life and I'm

2636
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:41,360
69 years old and and I'm going to

2637
02:10:48,479 --> 02:10:46,850
artists and I'm really interested in you

2638
02:10:52,780 --> 02:10:48,489
know bringing my art to another level

2639
02:10:55,420 --> 02:10:52,790
with the use of DMT that's why I get

2640
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:55,430
interested in yeah all right all right

2641
02:10:59,860 --> 02:10:57,170
I could I could see that I could see

2642
02:11:01,510 --> 02:10:59,870
that 60 90 don't sound 69 you sound uh

2643
02:11:03,610 --> 02:11:01,520
39 Thanks

2644
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:03,620
yeah there you go hey Marc thank you for

2645
02:11:09,010 --> 02:11:06,320
the phone call my friend yeah good luck

2646
02:11:10,479 --> 02:11:09,020
on your journey okay thank you yeah

2647
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:10,489
thank you

2648
02:11:15,310 --> 02:11:13,280
the phone systems working that's called

2649
02:11:16,990 --> 02:11:15,320
a hard reboot thank goodness all right

2650
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:17,000
three two three eight to five five zero

2651
02:11:22,380 --> 02:11:18,800
four five three two three a two five

2652
02:11:25,060 --> 02:11:22,390
five zero four or five have you when you

2653
02:11:26,950 --> 02:11:25,070
staying on this same line of questioning

2654
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:26,960
here when you hear about other people's

2655
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:31,930
experiences about the the different

2656
02:11:37,450 --> 02:11:35,360
entities or spirits or whoever that they

2657
02:11:41,979 --> 02:11:37,460
are meeting do you step back and go I

2658
02:11:45,130 --> 02:11:41,989
had this I met her yes I met her and

2659
02:11:49,330 --> 02:11:45,140
went and or him what does that tell you

2660
02:11:52,060 --> 02:11:49,340
when that happens well I think it just

2661
02:11:55,150 --> 02:11:52,070
gives a pretty strong representation

2662
02:11:59,979 --> 02:11:55,160
that there is a cosmology that there is

2663
02:12:03,340 --> 02:11:59,989
a you know kind of a map to the entire

2664
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:03,350
cosmos and the more that we're all

2665
02:12:08,140 --> 02:12:06,410
tracking these mystical experiences that

2666
02:12:12,010 --> 02:12:08,150
were having which people really haven't

2667
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:12,020
been publicly tracking the more that

2668
02:12:17,470 --> 02:12:14,930
we're able to go back to

2669
02:12:26,910 --> 02:12:17,480
and visit and explore and learn about

2670
02:12:29,980 --> 02:12:26,920
these these different dimensions the the

2671
02:12:33,550 --> 02:12:29,990
the ancient civilizations around the

2672
02:12:35,380 --> 02:12:33,560
world and I can go with you know ancient

2673
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:35,390
Egypt or we can look at Central and

2674
02:12:42,820 --> 02:12:39,650
South America you can look at Asia they

2675
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:42,830
were connected they were connected in a

2676
02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:46,970
lot of different ways where do you think

2677
02:12:51,340 --> 02:12:48,560
that guidance and knowledge and

2678
02:12:53,890 --> 02:12:51,350
technology and other things that that

2679
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:53,900
seemed to advance society that you know

2680
02:12:58,060 --> 02:12:56,570
that came out of so quickly with

2681
02:13:01,800 --> 02:12:58,070
different civilizations do you think

2682
02:13:08,110 --> 02:13:06,010
traveling to an interdimensional world

2683
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:08,120
where they came back and were

2684
02:13:16,530 --> 02:13:10,850
enlightened and that goes with things

2685
02:13:20,220 --> 02:13:16,540
like math maybe even the wheel geometry

2686
02:13:25,420 --> 02:13:20,230
political sides of things advancing

2687
02:13:26,890 --> 02:13:25,430
maturing as a civilization do you think

2688
02:13:30,670 --> 02:13:26,900
that some of this knowledge came from

2689
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:30,680
there absolutely I mean the information

2690
02:13:37,630 --> 02:13:34,370
that I got was that there are many

2691
02:13:40,030 --> 02:13:37,640
technologies for purification including

2692
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:40,040
psychedelics but there's other forms of

2693
02:13:46,090 --> 02:13:42,890
rituals such as there's the kayakalpa

2694
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:46,100
ritual which is what are you that extend

2695
02:13:54,370 --> 02:13:49,280
from and these purification rituals

2696
02:13:56,290 --> 02:13:54,380
allow for you to you know connect to

2697
02:13:57,880 --> 02:13:56,300
these different dimensions and what I

2698
02:13:59,200 --> 02:13:57,890
one of the things we're going to talk

2699
02:14:01,720 --> 02:13:59,210
about earlier which we didn't actually

2700
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:01,730
talk about was you know I had a very

2701
02:14:08,350 --> 02:14:04,570
powerful experience where I learned that

2702
02:14:12,490 --> 02:14:08,360
you know I was basically the universe

2703
02:14:16,150 --> 02:14:12,500
the entire universe uh you know

2704
02:14:19,900 --> 02:14:16,160
experiencing myself as Trisha and as I

2705
02:14:23,590 --> 02:14:19,910
expanded past my body I was able to

2706
02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:23,600
basically create these connections and I

2707
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:25,610
would say like with in astrology when we

2708
02:14:31,729 --> 02:14:29,010
talk about the scale of consciousness

2709
02:14:34,220 --> 02:14:31,739
um you know that's that's about where

2710
02:14:36,529 --> 02:14:34,230
the ego is you know the solar system and

2711
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:36,539
not you know there is there is energies

2712
02:14:40,250 --> 02:14:38,400
that guide us within that but once you

2713
02:14:44,029 --> 02:14:40,260
start to grow past that you can get into

2714
02:14:46,459 --> 02:14:44,039
these like really profound ashrams I

2715
02:14:50,270 --> 02:14:46,469
call them of consciousness where you can

2716
02:14:51,799 --> 02:14:50,280
literally download information and I was

2717
02:14:54,109 --> 02:14:51,809
told by the medicine so that's how

2718
02:14:55,490 --> 02:14:54,119
Einstein did it like he was connecting

2719
02:14:57,709 --> 02:14:55,500
and I don't I don't know if he was doing

2720
02:15:01,970 --> 02:14:57,719
it through medicine but I know there's

2721
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:01,980
people like Steve Jobs who used LSD to

2722
02:15:06,620 --> 02:15:04,079
get a lot of insights for the work that

2723
02:15:08,569 --> 02:15:06,630
he did a lot of innovation right right

2724
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:08,579
let's go back to the phones hi you're

2725
02:15:13,250 --> 02:15:10,110
live on paid ablack say hi to Trisha

2726
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:13,260
who's calling hi Jimmy

2727
02:15:24,169 --> 02:15:19,530
this is mr. anonymous tonight hi mr.

2728
02:15:28,370 --> 02:15:24,179
Ramon hi mr. Jimmy I love your show

2729
02:15:30,589 --> 02:15:28,380
terrific thank you Trisha I got a

2730
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:30,599
question how could you possibly know all

2731
02:15:38,810 --> 02:15:32,639
this information you sound like you're

2732
02:15:42,229 --> 02:15:38,820
maybe 20 so I I am 36 I'm going to be 37

2733
02:15:44,899 --> 02:15:42,239
this year so I already feel like I'm 37

2734
02:15:49,430 --> 02:15:44,909
but really all the information I

2735
02:15:52,430 --> 02:15:49,440
received is through the combination of

2736
02:15:55,549 --> 02:15:52,440
studying it on through you know

2737
02:15:58,100 --> 02:15:55,559
different modalities and at the same

2738
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:58,110
time confirming all of the things

2739
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,239
getting the knowing within myself

2740
02:16:05,779 --> 02:16:02,639
through these journeys through working

2741
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:05,789
with these ancestral technologies in

2742
02:16:12,470 --> 02:16:09,110
psychedelic yeah mr. anonymous I I

2743
02:16:16,990 --> 02:16:12,480
totally totally 100% agree with you

2744
02:16:18,919 --> 02:16:17,000
right yeah but it's pretty pretty

2745
02:16:21,799 --> 02:16:18,929
fantastical isn't it to get the

2746
02:16:24,830 --> 02:16:21,809
information and it it's it's credible

2747
02:16:28,910 --> 02:16:24,840
you know and and you can't you can't get

2748
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:28,920
away from Trish's tone right because you

2749
02:16:32,719 --> 02:16:30,960
know I hear you I hear exactly what

2750
02:16:34,519 --> 02:16:32,729
you're saying but yeah it's a it's a

2751
02:16:38,570 --> 02:16:34,529
pretty fascinating thing to get all of

2752
02:16:40,940 --> 02:16:38,580
this from one source so quickly when I

2753
02:16:42,860 --> 02:16:40,950
first started listening I said she

2754
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:42,870
sounds like she's a kitchen

2755
02:16:48,610 --> 02:16:45,210
Selene all of us the more I listen

2756
02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:48,620
there's connections being made right in

2757
02:16:57,950 --> 02:16:54,330
in nineteen about 76 I had windowpane

2758
02:17:00,020 --> 02:16:57,960
and I think it was like a quarter

2759
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:00,030
microgram was what they called it at the

2760
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:04,800
time a very very enlightening experience

2761
02:17:12,169 --> 02:17:09,090
I mean it was it was like a whole new

2762
02:17:14,419 --> 02:17:12,179
universe opened up to me and one of the

2763
02:17:18,140 --> 02:17:14,429
questions I had to myself before I went

2764
02:17:21,950 --> 02:17:18,150
to sleep that night was am I going to

2765
02:17:26,990 --> 02:17:21,960
wake up the same way right or even right

2766
02:17:29,510 --> 02:17:27,000
right right and over the years I've had

2767
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:29,520
some of the psilocybin from the

2768
02:17:36,500 --> 02:17:32,160
mushrooms and they're very good for

2769
02:17:38,810 --> 02:17:36,510
meditation and I always meditated on the

2770
02:17:43,070 --> 02:17:38,820
superconsciousness and that was it it

2771
02:17:45,980 --> 02:17:43,080
was just the god-consciousness mm-hmm

2772
02:17:48,470 --> 02:17:45,990
I've been taught how to do Ruby's okay

2773
02:17:50,930 --> 02:17:48,480
for astral projection he gave that up

2774
02:17:54,140 --> 02:17:50,940
because it scared the crap out of me one

2775
02:17:57,080 --> 02:17:54,150
and I was alone and I don't recommend

2776
02:18:02,600 --> 02:17:57,090
anybody doing it alone they date you do

2777
02:18:04,610 --> 02:18:02,610
need a guide and the pineal gland when

2778
02:18:06,770 --> 02:18:04,620
you mentioned the pineal gland and the

2779
02:18:09,890 --> 02:18:06,780
calcification that's going on because of

2780
02:18:12,169 --> 02:18:09,900
the all of the crap that they're putting

2781
02:18:16,010 --> 02:18:12,179
on our water supply the fluorides and

2782
02:18:19,430 --> 02:18:16,020
everything else I I made a connection to

2783
02:18:21,620 --> 02:18:19,440
when I was a child because I had the

2784
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:21,630
third eye so sensitive that I could walk

2785
02:18:24,350 --> 02:18:23,370
around the house at nighttime with my

2786
02:18:27,919 --> 02:18:24,360
eyes closed

2787
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:27,929
I can own a wall with four feet in front

2788
02:18:32,629 --> 02:18:28,610
of me

2789
02:18:36,110 --> 02:18:32,639
Wow and you know there was there's just

2790
02:18:39,020 --> 02:18:36,120
something that kids have innate that the

2791
02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:39,030
body has been ruined yet the senses are

2792
02:18:42,919 --> 02:18:41,040
still there they see things that other

2793
02:18:45,350 --> 02:18:42,929
people can't see they have secret

2794
02:18:48,910 --> 02:18:45,360
friends that other people tell them

2795
02:18:52,310 --> 02:18:48,920
aren't real you know they're like cats I

2796
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:52,320
have eight men you're at home and these

2797
02:18:56,720 --> 02:18:54,690
cats look right through the walls out on

2798
02:18:59,600 --> 02:18:56,730
to the street where people are walking

2799
02:19:02,390 --> 02:18:59,610
by like the wall isn't even there you

2800
02:19:04,670 --> 02:19:02,400
know they've got some connections but

2801
02:19:06,291 --> 02:19:04,680
hey it's a terrific show

2802
02:19:09,170 --> 02:19:06,301
I want to let somebody else have a

2803
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:09,180
chance to talk I really enjoy it Jimmy

2804
02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:11,850
you do a terrific job I'm really proud

2805
02:19:17,451 --> 02:19:14,490
of you thank you so much anonymous we

2806
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:17,461
will meet someday thank you very much

2807
02:19:21,740 --> 02:19:20,850
okay you got a thank you so much thank

2808
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:21,750
you thank you

2809
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:23,850
and I'll know it's him with a voice like

2810
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:27,690
that right cool I just want to clarify

2811
02:19:36,130 --> 02:19:31,770
I've gotten a couple of emails in and a

2812
02:19:40,791 --> 02:19:36,140
couple of posts that that the prince is

2813
02:19:42,770 --> 02:19:40,801
alive and is in New Zealand he just did

2814
02:19:45,831 --> 02:19:42,780
some kind of Greta there's that but then

2815
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:45,841
we have a couple of other posts in from

2816
02:19:52,461 --> 02:19:48,000
you know the Daily Mail and news.com

2817
02:19:54,711 --> 02:19:52,471
Australia and ABC News and others that

2818
02:19:56,990 --> 02:19:54,721
are all reporting is that so I don't

2819
02:19:59,150 --> 02:19:57,000
know what's going on with Philip so

2820
02:20:02,661 --> 02:19:59,160
there you go could be just one big

2821
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:02,671
massive hoax but we don't know we just

2822
02:20:08,060 --> 02:20:05,610
don't know but I want to always say here

2823
02:20:10,341 --> 02:20:08,070
that when breaking news like that comes

2824
02:20:14,030 --> 02:20:10,351
and it's fluid then we will stay on top

2825
02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:14,040
of it and we will vet it and and we're

2826
02:20:19,220 --> 02:20:15,450
trying to get to the bottom of it right

2827
02:20:21,201 --> 02:20:19,230
now with everybody and now also with

2828
02:20:24,440 --> 02:20:21,211
everybody out there in Twitter what have

2829
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:24,450
you heard is there anything else out

2830
02:20:31,631 --> 02:20:26,330
there about Prince Philip because

2831
02:20:35,121 --> 02:20:31,641
tomorrow and as this show goes out the

2832
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:35,131
the archives of the show I want to

2833
02:20:41,860 --> 02:20:38,160
actually be accurate when we do okay now

2834
02:20:44,180 --> 02:20:41,870
what is I asked you about this earlier

2835
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:44,190
but for everybody out there they're

2836
02:20:47,810 --> 02:20:45,570
going to have questions and you're going

2837
02:20:49,761 --> 02:20:47,820
to get flooded is it Facebook is that

2838
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:49,771
the best way and also there's a couple

2839
02:20:55,341 --> 02:20:53,490
of old Twitter accounts are these your

2840
02:20:59,690 --> 02:20:55,351
Twitter accounts that are out there or

2841
02:21:02,270 --> 02:20:59,700
are they not really you I probably have

2842
02:21:06,381 --> 02:21:02,280
an old Twitter account that I don't use

2843
02:21:09,841 --> 02:21:06,391
anymore so it's inactive if I do one it

2844
02:21:14,820 --> 02:21:09,851
says Venice Beach is that you

2845
02:21:16,501 --> 02:21:14,830
oh it might be I'm not sure I don't use

2846
02:21:20,690 --> 02:21:16,511
it I don't use Twitter anymore

2847
02:21:26,251 --> 02:21:20,700
okay when I so I I don't think that's me

2848
02:21:31,341 --> 02:21:26,261
it's possible um but as far as getting

2849
02:21:34,051 --> 02:21:31,351
ahold of me either you can go on the

2850
02:21:35,610 --> 02:21:34,061
psychedelic journeys calm and you can

2851
02:21:37,230 --> 02:21:35,620
just fill out a submission form and it

2852
02:21:40,470 --> 02:21:37,240
goes right to my email and that's

2853
02:21:42,211 --> 02:21:40,480
probably the easiest way is for some

2854
02:21:44,551 --> 02:21:42,221
reason you have trouble doing that you

2855
02:21:47,100 --> 02:21:44,561
can go on my Facebook page you're

2856
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:47,110
welcome to follow me I post a lot of

2857
02:21:53,310 --> 02:21:50,170
really cool stuff and talk about

2858
02:21:56,011 --> 02:21:53,320
different events where I'm speaking or

2859
02:21:57,360 --> 02:21:56,021
just you know interesting things that

2860
02:21:58,801 --> 02:21:57,370
are happening in the psychedelic

2861
02:22:01,950 --> 02:21:58,811
community if you want to stay abreast

2862
02:22:02,430 --> 02:22:01,960
and you can just follow me on that as

2863
02:22:05,461 --> 02:22:02,440
well

2864
02:22:11,370 --> 02:22:05,471
now I did want to ask you this and this

2865
02:22:14,930 --> 02:22:11,380
is a very very it's a question that has

2866
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:14,940
to be asked how do you know what is real

2867
02:22:23,461 --> 02:22:19,570
DMT how do you know what is not is there

2868
02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:23,471
is can you look at it and tell I asked

2869
02:22:27,091 --> 02:22:25,450
oh that's a whole nother thing and but

2870
02:22:29,780 --> 02:22:27,101
you know that that that's a different

2871
02:22:32,490 --> 02:22:29,790
situation but if somebody out there is

2872
02:22:34,501 --> 02:22:32,500
you know I mean how do you know it could

2873
02:22:37,740 --> 02:22:34,511
be anything I mean how do you know can

2874
02:22:39,860 --> 02:22:37,750
you taste it is there it didn't easy how

2875
02:22:42,890 --> 02:22:39,870
do you know how do you know if it's real

2876
02:22:46,950 --> 02:22:42,900
well the first thing I want to say is

2877
02:22:50,041 --> 02:22:46,960
DMT is not a very good experience to do

2878
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:50,051
on your own without a sitter

2879
02:22:55,591 --> 02:22:53,530
without someone who's trained and there

2880
02:22:57,780 --> 02:22:55,601
are training programs on how to be a

2881
02:22:59,610 --> 02:22:57,790
sitter that are free one of them is

2882
02:23:02,490 --> 02:22:59,620
called the zendo project it's a

2883
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:02,500
psychedelic first aid program and they

2884
02:23:06,330 --> 02:23:04,000
teach you how to deal with pretty much

2885
02:23:08,100 --> 02:23:06,340
any psychedelic situation that could

2886
02:23:10,051 --> 02:23:08,110
come up and they provide psychedelic

2887
02:23:13,770 --> 02:23:10,061
first aid at festivals like Burning Man

2888
02:23:16,890 --> 02:23:13,780
right where you know so I do want to say

2889
02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:16,900
that the best thing to do is to you know

2890
02:23:21,421 --> 02:23:18,700
get that kind of training if you're

2891
02:23:23,460 --> 02:23:21,431
planning on like what they call holding

2892
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:23,470
space or babysitting

2893
02:23:30,780 --> 02:23:27,340
one else and as far as like can you tell

2894
02:23:33,870 --> 02:23:30,790
I'm not an expert on the nn DMT I work

2895
02:23:36,179 --> 02:23:33,880
with um you know primarily the the

2896
02:23:40,590 --> 02:23:36,189
medicine of the toad the five I'm here

2897
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:40,600
DMT and it has a very distinctive look

2898
02:23:46,769 --> 02:23:44,170
and it's like kind of like crystallized

2899
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:46,779
dried up toad slobber

2900
02:23:52,979 --> 02:23:50,290
haha you could say it's like limited you

2901
02:23:54,510 --> 02:23:52,989
couldn't fake it you know pretty it's

2902
02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:54,520
pretty distinctive

2903
02:24:01,290 --> 02:23:59,680
so um and so and you know because I did

2904
02:24:05,130 --> 02:24:01,300
this I'm going to tell you right now I

2905
02:24:09,630 --> 02:24:05,140
had a I went out and started searching

2906
02:24:11,700 --> 02:24:09,640
for it and the the I just wanted to see

2907
02:24:14,940 --> 02:24:11,710
what the world was like you know and it

2908
02:24:18,510 --> 02:24:14,950
it just didn't feel quite right to me

2909
02:24:21,210 --> 02:24:18,520
about what was out there and trying to

2910
02:24:23,219 --> 02:24:21,220
go into the Deep Web and and try to take

2911
02:24:27,330 --> 02:24:23,229
a peek around to see way you know and I

2912
02:24:30,750 --> 02:24:27,340
just backed off not that out it just

2913
02:24:33,150 --> 02:24:30,760
didn't feel right I I think that you

2914
02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:33,160
have the best advice and you need to

2915
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:34,630
have a sitter you need to have somebody

2916
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:37,450
that's there and that that person is

2917
02:24:44,179 --> 02:24:39,850
probably representing something that is

2918
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:44,189
real and authentic the experience right

2919
02:24:50,010 --> 02:24:47,920
and that's that's where I just you know

2920
02:24:53,490 --> 02:24:50,020
put the car in reverse a little bit and

2921
02:24:56,190 --> 02:24:53,500
and and and backed up and went okay that

2922
02:25:00,450 --> 02:24:56,200
this is this is a world that you just

2923
02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:00,460
don't walk into alone and and think that

2924
02:25:03,599 --> 02:25:02,050
you're just going to go and do this

2925
02:25:07,860 --> 02:25:03,609
correctly you need to have somebody

2926
02:25:11,219 --> 02:25:07,870
guiding you yeah it's very important

2927
02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:11,229
it's it's you know number one you're

2928
02:25:15,929 --> 02:25:12,970
you're traveling into another dimension

2929
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:15,939
and you just want to make sure that you

2930
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:17,830
are opening and closing those doorways

2931
02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:19,840
properly within yourself if it does

2932
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:23,950
bring up trauma or fear or other things

2933
02:25:28,559 --> 02:25:26,890
that energy can get stock and if you you

2934
02:25:31,530 --> 02:25:28,569
know you don't have someone there that

2935
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:31,540
can help you move through that then it

2936
02:25:35,670 --> 02:25:33,520
could end up you know putting you out

2937
02:25:36,371 --> 02:25:35,680
for a little while in terms of you know

2938
02:25:39,701 --> 02:25:36,381
filling

2939
02:25:42,911 --> 02:25:39,711
off can you tell when you meet somebody

2940
02:25:44,980 --> 02:25:42,921
for the first time if they have had

2941
02:25:48,551 --> 02:25:44,990
these experiences in their past can you

2942
02:25:52,001 --> 02:25:48,561
tell can you look into the rise I mean I

2943
02:25:55,150 --> 02:25:52,011
think that there's definitely a deeper

2944
02:25:57,610 --> 02:25:55,160
connection that I experience with people

2945
02:26:01,541 --> 02:25:57,620
that are on this path I feel like when

2946
02:26:03,730 --> 02:26:01,551
you're on this path I believe we have

2947
02:26:05,770 --> 02:26:03,740
these architectures and you know they

2948
02:26:07,541 --> 02:26:05,780
talk about how monkeys and humans have

2949
02:26:11,071 --> 02:26:07,551
mirror neurons and that's how we have

2950
02:26:14,591 --> 02:26:11,081
empathy well I also believe that we have

2951
02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:14,601
that same encoding to complete certain

2952
02:26:18,701 --> 02:26:16,730
archetypal lessons and so we attract

2953
02:26:20,140 --> 02:26:18,711
certain people into our field so I feel

2954
02:26:23,711 --> 02:26:20,150
like when you start doing this work

2955
02:26:26,201 --> 02:26:23,721
there's a like I always I'm like oh he's

2956
02:26:28,091 --> 02:26:26,211
on the toad Network or that person's on

2957
02:26:31,060 --> 02:26:28,101
the iboga Network and you can tell like

2958
02:26:33,310 --> 02:26:31,070
the medicine you know just brings the

2959
02:26:36,161 --> 02:26:33,320
brings the community together and draws

2960
02:26:38,831 --> 02:26:36,171
those those people into your field thank

2961
02:26:41,440 --> 02:26:38,841
you so much Tricia what an amazing

2962
02:26:43,961 --> 02:26:41,450
conversation tonight just answered so

2963
02:26:46,871 --> 02:26:43,971
many questions and you know for this

2964
02:26:49,211 --> 02:26:46,881
audience and for myself we've heard so

2965
02:26:51,251 --> 02:26:49,221
much about this but you know you really

2966
02:26:53,890 --> 02:26:51,261
need to go to the right person to ask

2967
02:26:55,900 --> 02:26:53,900
these questions where the answers are

2968
02:26:58,470 --> 02:26:55,910
going to be honest and accurate so we

2969
02:27:01,720 --> 02:26:58,480
know that we can move forward

2970
02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:01,730
whatever our life path is but that we

2971
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:04,370
have true knowledge and I want to thank

2972
02:27:09,310 --> 02:27:06,490
you for that tonight thank you so much

2973
02:27:12,041 --> 02:27:09,320
thank you I'd such an honor to be on

2974
02:27:14,381 --> 02:27:12,051
your show and just so blown away at how

2975
02:27:16,781 --> 02:27:14,391
highlight even all the advertisements

2976
02:27:19,301 --> 02:27:16,791
are I love it is everything that you're

2977
02:27:23,140 --> 02:27:19,311
doing yes thank you so much Tricia and

2978
02:27:25,001 --> 02:27:23,150
we will be seeing each other very soon

2979
02:27:27,011 --> 02:27:25,011
and more on that later

2980
02:27:30,461 --> 02:27:27,021
thank you so much for she I have a great

2981
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:30,471
rest of your evening you too good night

2982
02:27:36,940 --> 02:27:33,530
good night Tricia Eastman everybody now

2983
02:27:38,711 --> 02:27:36,950
just go to Jimmy Church radio comm click

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right there psychedelic journeys calm

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3060
02:32:20,340 --> 02:32:16,660
that's an amazing conversation that's

3061
02:32:22,740 --> 02:32:20,350
all I can say Thank You Tricia makes you

3062
02:32:25,140 --> 02:32:22,750
it makes you think doesn't it it just

3063
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:25,150
makes you think it just makes you think

3064
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:28,450
makes you wonder for me wow you know and

3065
02:32:33,090 --> 02:32:30,370
I you know what do you do what do you do

3066
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:33,100
when you have questions you know what do

3067
02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:36,010
you what do you do well maybe you just

3068
02:32:40,740 --> 02:32:38,770
need to go and find out and and and and

3069
02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:40,750
get those answers there's something

3070
02:32:46,080 --> 02:32:42,460
going on out there with it

3071
02:32:48,990 --> 02:32:46,090
and I remember last year we were in

3072
02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:49,000
contact in the desert and I introduced

3073
02:32:54,990 --> 02:32:52,630
Graham Hancock and Rita and I sat down

3074
02:32:57,270 --> 02:32:55,000
we were in the front room we sat down

3075
02:33:02,820 --> 02:32:57,280
and he started his conversation about

3076
02:33:05,790 --> 02:33:02,830
this and it was it was it was amazing

3077
02:33:08,250 --> 02:33:05,800
you could hear a pin drop in that room

3078
02:33:10,590 --> 02:33:08,260
by the way and that's what's going on

3079
02:33:14,820 --> 02:33:10,600
this is the conversation today DMT

3080
02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:14,830
ayahuasca iboga what is going on now I

3081
02:33:19,590 --> 02:33:17,920
didn't know although I had read this but

3082
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:19,600
it kind of sunk in a little bit with

3083
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:23,650
Tricia that just very very very limited

3084
02:33:32,340 --> 02:33:28,090
limited sources for iboga and and Gabon

3085
02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:32,350
and an Africa that it you know it's that

3086
02:33:36,840 --> 02:33:34,900
that that's a difficult road to go down

3087
02:33:38,940 --> 02:33:36,850
if you're going to choose that path but

3088
02:33:40,500 --> 02:33:38,950
anyway very very enlightening

3089
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:40,510
conversation tonight thank you so much

3090
02:33:44,670 --> 02:33:42,130
Tricia again her

3091
02:33:47,190 --> 02:33:44,680
website is psychedelic journeys dot-com

3092
02:33:48,810 --> 02:33:47,200
and I'm going to leave the phone lines

3093
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:48,820
open three two three eight two five five

3094
02:33:53,610 --> 02:33:51,850
zero four five and I'm going to get to

3095
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:53,620
some of the news that you know

3096
02:34:01,860 --> 02:33:58,240
absolutely nothing about check this out

3097
02:34:05,719 --> 02:34:01,870
a widely reported email purporting to be

3098
02:34:07,980 --> 02:34:05,729
a request now everybody listen to this

3099
02:34:11,250 --> 02:34:07,990
widely reported email purporting to

3100
02:34:14,700 --> 02:34:11,260
request to share a Google Docs document

3101
02:34:17,100 --> 02:34:14,710
is actually a well disguised phishing

3102
02:34:19,530 --> 02:34:17,110
attack it directs the user to a

3103
02:34:22,350 --> 02:34:19,540
look-alike site and grants the site

3104
02:34:24,929 --> 02:34:22,360
access to the targets Google credentials

3105
02:34:26,700 --> 02:34:24,939
if the victim clicks on the prompt to

3106
02:34:29,790 --> 02:34:26,710
give the site permission to use Google

3107
02:34:32,639 --> 02:34:29,800
credentials the fish then harvests all

3108
02:34:36,210 --> 02:34:32,649
of the contacts in the victim's gmail

3109
02:34:40,370 --> 02:34:36,220
address book and adds them to its list

3110
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:40,380
of targets the fish appears to have been

3111
02:34:46,320 --> 02:34:43,210
initially targeted at a number of

3112
02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:46,330
reporters and journalists but it quickly

3113
02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:48,670
spread widely across the Internet some

3114
02:34:54,120 --> 02:34:50,590
of the sites associated with the attack

3115
02:34:56,250 --> 02:34:54,130
appeared to have now been shut down the

3116
02:34:59,880 --> 02:34:56,260
email uses a technique that a Trend

3117
02:35:03,150 --> 02:34:59,890
Micro report linked last week to pawn

3118
02:35:05,250 --> 02:35:03,160
storm an ongoing espionage campaign

3119
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:05,260
frequently attributed to the Russian

3120
02:35:13,290 --> 02:35:08,560
intelligence operations the attack uses

3121
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:13,300
the OAuth authentication interface which

3122
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:15,610
is also used by many web services to a

3123
02:35:22,380 --> 02:35:18,490
lot of users to login without using a

3124
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:22,390
password by abusing that the attack is

3125
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:25,090
able to present a legitimate Google

3126
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:28,110
dialog box requesting authorization

3127
02:35:34,620 --> 02:35:32,050
however the authentication also ask

3128
02:35:38,250 --> 02:35:34,630
permission for access to view and manage

3129
02:35:40,219 --> 02:35:38,260
your email and view and manage the files

3130
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:40,229
in your Google Drive

3131
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:43,450
the fake application used in the pond

3132
02:35:48,810 --> 02:35:46,450
storm fish which posed as a Google

3133
02:35:52,469 --> 02:35:48,820
security alert by the way was named

3134
02:35:54,929 --> 02:35:52,479
Google Defender today's fish asked the

3135
02:35:55,319 --> 02:35:54,939
target to grant access to Google Docs a

3136
02:35:57,629 --> 02:35:55,329
fake

3137
02:36:01,260 --> 02:35:57,639
application using the name of Google's

3138
02:36:03,449 --> 02:36:01,270
service the target grants permission the

3139
02:36:06,419 --> 02:36:03,459
malicious site will immediately harvest

3140
02:36:09,029 --> 02:36:06,429
contacts from the targets email and send

3141
02:36:12,629 --> 02:36:09,039
copies of the original message to them

3142
02:36:16,379 --> 02:36:12,639
you gotta be careful I'm going to say

3143
02:36:21,239 --> 02:36:16,389
this I haven't had I haven't had a real

3144
02:36:25,879 --> 02:36:21,249
real virus attack in a long time and

3145
02:36:27,449 --> 02:36:25,889
there's one reason why I don't click on

3146
02:36:30,779 --> 02:36:27,459
anything

3147
02:36:34,589 --> 02:36:30,789
I don't do it I've got a good spam

3148
02:36:37,459 --> 02:36:34,599
system here the filters everything that

3149
02:36:40,589 --> 02:36:37,469
for everybody that works with us here

3150
02:36:46,889 --> 02:36:40,599
but I just don't click on anything I

3151
02:36:51,119 --> 02:36:46,899
don't click I don't I don't I and I will

3152
02:36:52,829 --> 02:36:51,129
respond to emails from from people that

3153
02:36:55,469 --> 02:36:52,839
I know that send me links and I

3154
02:36:59,159 --> 02:36:55,479
literally tell them I do not click on

3155
02:37:01,199 --> 02:36:59,169
links I don't do it you can send me the

3156
02:37:03,089 --> 02:37:01,209
description of something and I'll go out

3157
02:37:06,119 --> 02:37:03,099
there and search for it and go that way

3158
02:37:07,139 --> 02:37:06,129
but I if there is a link to click on in

3159
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:07,149
an email I do

3160
02:37:14,999 --> 02:37:11,439
I absolutely click on nothing nothing I

3161
02:37:18,679 --> 02:37:15,009
know remote message and nothing that I

3162
02:37:24,079 --> 02:37:18,689
don't activate anything and I run clean

3163
02:37:26,969 --> 02:37:24,089
you know I don't know what because these

3164
02:37:27,389 --> 02:37:26,979
these phishing scams and malware and so

3165
02:37:29,399 --> 02:37:27,399
forth

3166
02:37:31,949 --> 02:37:29,409
the reason why they're they're out there

3167
02:37:34,709 --> 02:37:31,959
is because people actually do click on

3168
02:37:37,859 --> 02:37:34,719
this stuff that's exactly how Podesta

3169
02:37:41,459 --> 02:37:37,869
went down think about this Podesta went

3170
02:37:45,689 --> 02:37:41,469
down his staff they actually and and it

3171
02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:45,699
went to about 150 of the Democratic

3172
02:37:51,179 --> 02:37:47,770
Party staffers they all got the same

3173
02:37:53,459 --> 02:37:51,189
email and looked like an official Google

3174
02:37:57,899 --> 02:37:53,469
situation and looking for and I cannot

3175
02:38:02,369 --> 02:37:57,909
believe that supposedly intelligent

3176
02:38:05,010 --> 02:38:02,379
people DC we're clicking on this and

3177
02:38:09,121 --> 02:38:05,020
throwing their passwords around I don't

3178
02:38:12,091 --> 02:38:09,131
care how authentic it looks you know I

3179
02:38:15,841 --> 02:38:12,101
just don't do I will not click on

3180
02:38:18,061 --> 02:38:15,851
anything and that's how I run that's how

3181
02:38:20,911 --> 02:38:18,071
I run that nothing gets clicked down in

3182
02:38:22,621 --> 02:38:20,921
my email when I when I hear about stuff

3183
02:38:25,561 --> 02:38:22,631
like this and it just makes me wonder

3184
02:38:30,271 --> 02:38:25,571
that the reason why they're successful

3185
02:38:33,211 --> 02:38:30,281
is because people actually click I never

3186
02:38:35,881 --> 02:38:33,221
I never do I will not click on anything

3187
02:38:39,241 --> 02:38:35,891
so send me a link anybody send me a link

3188
02:38:41,701 --> 02:38:39,251
it ain't can happen same here it got got

3189
02:38:44,041 --> 02:38:41,711
their channel on favorites you know okay

3190
02:38:48,541 --> 02:38:44,051
I anyway I'm just reading Twitter as I

3191
02:38:52,831 --> 02:38:48,551
as I read this to you here we go biotech

3192
02:38:57,241 --> 02:38:52,841
giant Monsanto is being accused of

3193
02:39:00,841 --> 02:38:57,251
hiring through third parties an army of

3194
02:39:04,201 --> 02:39:00,851
internet trolls for what to counter

3195
02:39:07,220 --> 02:39:04,211
negative comments about Monsanto while

3196
02:39:10,201 --> 02:39:07,230
citing positive ghostwritten

3197
02:39:13,851 --> 02:39:10,211
pseudo-scientific reports which downplay

3198
02:39:16,501 --> 02:39:13,861
the potential risks of their products I

3199
02:39:19,321 --> 02:39:16,511
love it when I have to say this some

3200
02:39:21,601 --> 02:39:19,331
things you just can't make up the

3201
02:39:24,991 --> 02:39:21,611
documents emerges during pre trials on

3202
02:39:26,851 --> 02:39:25,001
50 lawsuits against Monsanto which were

3203
02:39:29,911 --> 02:39:26,861
pending in US history court in San

3204
02:39:32,581 --> 02:39:29,921
Francisco the plaintiffs allege that

3205
02:39:36,781 --> 02:39:32,591
exposure to the biotechs giant's

3206
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:36,791
flagship product roundup caused them or

3207
02:39:42,691 --> 02:39:39,730
their relatives to develop non-hodgkin

3208
02:39:45,751 --> 02:39:42,701
lymphoma while Monsanto concealed the

3209
02:39:49,140 --> 02:39:45,761
potential risk well in March a judge

3210
02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:49,150
ruled aspyn Santos objections that the

3211
02:39:53,521 --> 02:39:50,980
documents obtained by the plaintiffs

3212
02:39:55,711 --> 02:39:53,531
could be released the court papers are

3213
02:39:59,161 --> 02:39:55,721
being gathered at a website of food

3214
02:40:02,401 --> 02:39:59,171
safety whistleblower organization u.s.

3215
02:40:05,701 --> 02:40:02,411
right to know the plaintiffs alleged

3216
02:40:08,220 --> 02:40:05,711
that Monsanto targeted all online

3217
02:40:10,801 --> 02:40:08,230
materials and even social media comments

3218
02:40:13,201 --> 02:40:10,811
that indicate potential dangers of its

3219
02:40:16,591 --> 02:40:13,211
products now this is according to a

3220
02:40:17,191 --> 02:40:16,601
document released late in April last

3221
02:40:19,951 --> 02:40:17,201
month

3222
02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:19,961
the accusations are backed up by a batch

3223
02:40:25,020 --> 02:40:22,450
of emails used in

3224
02:40:27,511 --> 02:40:25,030
or as evidence which were written by

3225
02:40:30,631 --> 02:40:27,521
some of Monsanto's own executives

3226
02:40:34,460 --> 02:40:30,641
instructing the staff are you ready to

3227
02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:34,470
ghostwrite articles and then have some

3228
02:40:40,620 --> 02:40:37,690
independent scientist just sign their

3229
02:40:43,671 --> 02:40:40,630
names under the study I'm using air

3230
02:40:48,060 --> 02:40:43,681
quotes for all of us in order to reduce

3231
02:40:52,620 --> 02:40:48,070
costs can you believe it

3232
02:40:55,320 --> 02:40:52,630
the evil Monsanto roundup was watching a

3233
02:40:59,520 --> 02:40:55,330
commercial the other day for roundup

3234
02:41:05,580 --> 02:40:59,530
that that leaves your grass growing but

3235
02:41:09,150 --> 02:41:05,590
kills the quick it's like oh man I can't

3236
02:41:12,450 --> 02:41:09,160
imagine a there are this is this is

3237
02:41:15,290 --> 02:41:12,460
what's funny to me I don't think that

3238
02:41:20,011 --> 02:41:15,300
anybody that listens to this program

3239
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:20,021
ever uses roundup right we understand we

3240
02:41:26,460 --> 02:41:21,760
know what roundup is and we know what

3241
02:41:28,801 --> 02:41:26,470
Monsanto is about but walk into your

3242
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:28,811
home improvement store whatever it is

3243
02:41:34,761 --> 02:41:32,800
man walk into any one of them and look

3244
02:41:37,921 --> 02:41:34,771
at roundup stacked up to the ceiling

3245
02:41:40,410 --> 02:41:37,931
pallets full of it and that stuff rolls

3246
02:41:42,390 --> 02:41:40,420
up people don't know and they don't care

3247
02:41:44,730 --> 02:41:42,400
and they're spraying roundup all over

3248
02:41:47,091 --> 02:41:44,740
their house all over their lawn

3249
02:41:50,790 --> 02:41:47,101
everywhere on the sidewalks in the

3250
02:41:54,390 --> 02:41:50,800
roundup everywhere think about that I

3251
02:41:56,820 --> 02:41:54,400
don't know if their sales have gone down

3252
02:41:59,280 --> 02:41:56,830
with all of the warnings certain

3253
02:42:01,381 --> 02:41:59,290
countries now have blocked it but isn't

3254
02:42:05,220 --> 02:42:01,391
that doesn't that feel funny to who in

3255
02:42:07,890 --> 02:42:05,230
the right mind would would purchase

3256
02:42:12,540 --> 02:42:07,900
roundup the answer is nobody

3257
02:42:16,110 --> 02:42:12,550
and I told idle it before when Reid and

3258
02:42:18,270 --> 02:42:16,120
I first bought our house I did what

3259
02:42:21,210 --> 02:42:18,280
everybody does you know it was it was a

3260
02:42:25,410 --> 02:42:21,220
number of years ago now going on it's

3261
02:42:28,770 --> 02:42:25,420
going to be almost ten but I went in and

3262
02:42:33,150 --> 02:42:28,780
bought roundup I never used it and it is

3263
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:33,160
sitting in my garage right now

3264
02:42:39,210 --> 02:42:35,530
because right after I purchased it and

3265
02:42:43,020 --> 02:42:39,220
and there were some some he 90 just

3266
02:42:48,540 --> 02:42:43,030
doing what you know homeowners do and I

3267
02:42:50,940 --> 02:42:48,550
saw this documentary on roundup and I

3268
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:50,950
saw two actually on TV and it flipped me

3269
02:42:55,650 --> 02:42:54,010
out flip me out I don't want to go into

3270
02:42:57,500 --> 02:42:55,660
those details but I never used it as

3271
02:43:00,690 --> 02:42:57,510
sitting in my garage who would use

3272
02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:00,700
roundup today but it is still being sold

3273
02:43:07,139 --> 02:43:02,800
by the palatal at the home-improvement

3274
02:43:08,850 --> 02:43:07,149
store near you all right where am I at

3275
02:43:12,230 --> 02:43:08,860
what where am I at

3276
02:43:15,240 --> 02:43:12,240
oh oh yeah so I mentioned earlier that

3277
02:43:16,889 --> 02:43:15,250
Iran had attempted to launch a cruise

3278
02:43:19,050 --> 02:43:16,899
missile from a submarine in the Strait

3279
02:43:22,530 --> 02:43:19,060
of Hormuz and they did this yesterday

3280
02:43:27,660 --> 02:43:22,540
but the tests have failed now it was an

3281
02:43:29,520 --> 02:43:27,670
Iranian Yano class [\h__\h] submarine that

3282
02:43:31,170 --> 02:43:29,530
conducted the missile launch North Korea

3283
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:31,180
and Iran are the only two countries in

3284
02:43:35,940 --> 02:43:33,490
the world that operate this type of

3285
02:43:38,190 --> 02:43:35,950
submarine now I want somebody in Twitter

3286
02:43:40,650 --> 02:43:38,200
right now one of the fader knots post a

3287
02:43:43,860 --> 02:43:40,660
picture of the yawn oh why o n o class

3288
02:43:45,450 --> 02:43:43,870
[\h__\h] submarine it is trippy I don't

3289
02:43:48,660 --> 02:43:45,460
know how many dudes fit on this

3290
02:43:52,170 --> 02:43:48,670
submarine how many sailors would fit but

3291
02:43:54,990 --> 02:43:52,180
it's got to be I don't know I don't know

3292
02:43:57,840 --> 02:43:55,000
half a dozen maybe two or three it's

3293
02:44:02,550 --> 02:43:57,850
small that how could you fit a cruise

3294
02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:02,560
missile a hazardous waste pepo I know

3295
02:44:06,990 --> 02:44:05,590
right yeah I know I that's one of the

3296
02:44:09,450 --> 02:44:07,000
reasons why it's still sitting in my

3297
02:44:11,790 --> 02:44:09,460
garage I don't know how to dispose of

3298
02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:11,800
the roundup I'm not going to put it in

3299
02:44:15,960 --> 02:44:13,510
the trash can I'm not going to allow the

3300
02:44:18,840 --> 02:44:15,970
garbage guy to pick it up and throw it

3301
02:44:20,730 --> 02:44:18,850
in the dumb stuff there right what do I

3302
02:44:24,540 --> 02:44:20,740
do with the roundup does anybody know

3303
02:44:26,760 --> 02:44:24,550
what to do with with uh and I've got the

3304
02:44:29,730 --> 02:44:26,770
like the two and a half gallon thing

3305
02:44:32,370 --> 02:44:29,740
with the with the spray nozzle and the

3306
02:44:36,420 --> 02:44:32,380
in the hose connected to with the pump

3307
02:44:38,190 --> 02:44:36,430
right I don't know I don't know I don't

3308
02:44:39,450 --> 02:44:38,200
know what to do with roundup somebody

3309
02:44:41,850 --> 02:44:39,460
give me some advice there

3310
02:44:43,679 --> 02:44:41,860
but yeah the Yano class submarine look

3311
02:44:46,260 --> 02:44:43,689
at this little thing how can you fit a

3312
02:44:46,649 --> 02:44:46,270
cruise missile on this or was it a mini

3313
02:44:48,869 --> 02:44:46,659
crew

3314
02:44:51,449 --> 02:44:48,879
was missile I don't know but the launch

3315
02:44:54,209 --> 02:44:51,459
didn't work all right and I had also

3316
02:44:56,939 --> 02:44:54,219
mentioned earlier you can read stats

3317
02:45:00,300 --> 02:44:56,949
about North Korea's something now North

3318
02:45:02,609 --> 02:45:00,310
Korea is about the size of your local

3319
02:45:03,539 --> 02:45:02,619
Kmart it's a very there it is thank you

3320
02:45:06,539 --> 02:45:03,549
so much mark

3321
02:45:07,319 --> 02:45:06,549
look at that submarine happy look at

3322
02:45:10,199 --> 02:45:07,329
this thing

3323
02:45:12,389 --> 02:45:10,209
okay there's four dudes there look how

3324
02:45:15,869 --> 02:45:12,399
tiny that is now where does a cruise

3325
02:45:19,169 --> 02:45:15,879
missile go on this guy somebody help me

3326
02:45:20,819 --> 02:45:19,179
out here I have no clue that gets a

3327
02:45:23,130 --> 02:45:20,829
retweet thank you so much for that mark

3328
02:45:25,619 --> 02:45:23,140
that's a yacht on class submarine right

3329
02:45:28,139 --> 02:45:25,629
there and so when you hear about North

3330
02:45:30,029 --> 02:45:28,149
Korea with this massive submarine force

3331
02:45:33,959 --> 02:45:30,039
right handed that's 70 submarine they

3332
02:45:37,229 --> 02:45:33,969
got 70 of these and they look like toys

3333
02:45:39,059 --> 02:45:37,239
you know what I'd buy one of those I'd

3334
02:45:40,919 --> 02:45:39,069
buy one of those you could cruise around

3335
02:45:44,099 --> 02:45:40,929
for a while on that and have some fun

3336
02:45:46,139 --> 02:45:44,109
all right yeah pretty cool can't be

3337
02:45:48,059 --> 02:45:46,149
expensive what is it what are you

3338
02:45:52,319 --> 02:45:48,069
thinking yeah low class submarine runs

3339
02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:52,329
hunter Grande okay oh here's another one

3340
02:45:56,609 --> 02:45:54,489
here look at that that's a killer

3341
02:46:01,439 --> 02:45:56,619
picture right there thank you Jason

3342
02:46:05,069 --> 02:46:01,449
look at that class submarine all right

3343
02:46:08,159 --> 02:46:05,079
let me let me move on here an American

3344
02:46:11,789 --> 02:46:08,169
company that okay stay with me now I

3345
02:46:16,739 --> 02:46:11,799
want you to get enraged okay all right

3346
02:46:19,919 --> 02:46:16,749
is that it okay so for what so it can

3347
02:46:22,380 --> 02:46:19,929
hold a couple of torpedoes is 120 [\h__\h]

3348
02:46:24,149 --> 02:46:22,390
submarine is that it okay

3349
02:46:28,130 --> 02:46:24,159
all right moving on an American company

3350
02:46:32,639 --> 02:46:28,140
that was paid nearly seven hundred

3351
02:46:35,669 --> 02:46:32,649
million dollars to secure an Air Force

3352
02:46:40,679 --> 02:46:35,679
Base in Iraq for f-16 fighter jets

3353
02:46:44,309 --> 02:46:40,689
turned the blight blind eye to alcohol

3354
02:46:48,090 --> 02:46:44,319
smuggling theft security violations and

3355
02:46:51,749 --> 02:46:48,100
allegations of sex trafficking and that

3356
02:46:54,989 --> 02:46:51,759
company then fired the investigators who

3357
02:46:57,090 --> 02:46:54,999
uncovered the wrongdoing documents and

3358
02:46:59,130 --> 02:46:57,100
interviews with two former internal

3359
02:47:00,360 --> 02:46:59,140
investigators and a half dozen former or

3360
02:47:04,740 --> 02:47:00,370
current

3361
02:47:08,160 --> 02:47:04,750
Sallyport global staff describe schemes

3362
02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:08,170
at anoraks Balad air base that were

3363
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:10,960
major contract violations at best and

3364
02:47:17,940 --> 02:47:14,410
improving well completely illegal

3365
02:47:19,410 --> 02:47:17,950
the fired investigators Robert Cole and

3366
02:47:21,570 --> 02:47:19,420
Christy King

3367
02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:21,580
so they encumbered evidence that

3368
02:47:25,410 --> 02:47:22,720
Sallyport

3369
02:47:27,960 --> 02:47:25,420
employees were involved in human

3370
02:47:31,170 --> 02:47:27,970
trafficking for prostitution the staff

3371
02:47:34,830 --> 02:47:31,180
on base routinely fluence muggle alcohol

3372
02:47:37,591 --> 02:47:34,840
in such high volumes that a plane once

3373
02:47:41,280 --> 02:47:37,601
almost crashed and seesawed on the

3374
02:47:45,560 --> 02:47:41,290
tarmac under the wait now a rogue

3375
02:47:50,820 --> 02:47:45,570
militia listen to this a rogue militia

3376
02:47:54,750 --> 02:47:50,830
stole enormous generators using flatbed

3377
02:47:56,940 --> 02:47:54,760
trucks and a 60-foot crane driving right

3378
02:47:58,740 --> 02:47:56,950
past sally port security guards nobody

3379
02:48:01,770 --> 02:47:58,750
did a thing now what happened was this

3380
02:48:04,920 --> 02:48:01,780
the rogue militia drove on to the Air

3381
02:48:10,140 --> 02:48:04,930
Force Base with three flatbed trucks

3382
02:48:12,570 --> 02:48:10,150
went up with a 60-foot crane picked up

3383
02:48:16,261 --> 02:48:12,580
these generators placed two of them on

3384
02:48:18,060 --> 02:48:16,271
each of the flatbeds with the 60-foot

3385
02:48:21,301 --> 02:48:18,070
crane you have to have professionals

3386
02:48:24,660 --> 02:48:21,311
involved with this operation loaded them

3387
02:48:26,841 --> 02:48:24,670
up onto the flatbed drove them straight

3388
02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:26,851
off of the base and nobody did anything

3389
02:48:33,330 --> 02:48:30,370
apparently the guards at the base the

3390
02:48:35,220 --> 02:48:33,340
sally port employees were so drunk that

3391
02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:35,230
some were passed out and they didn't

3392
02:48:40,380 --> 02:48:38,050
care that this rogue militia had drove

3393
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:40,390
onto the base and taken it over and

3394
02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:44,080
drove off with these generators now the

3395
02:48:49,740 --> 02:48:47,410
base itself was occupied by us Isis

3396
02:48:53,011 --> 02:48:49,750
moved into the country we abandoned the

3397
02:48:55,801 --> 02:48:53,021
base we took off running this is no joke

3398
02:48:58,350 --> 02:48:55,811
now that Isis has been moved up and out

3399
02:49:01,020 --> 02:48:58,360
of Iraq now they want to get the base

3400
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:01,030
operational again the trouble stretches

3401
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:03,130
to headquarters in Reston Virginia

3402
02:49:06,950 --> 02:49:04,570
and this is according to the

3403
02:49:09,480 --> 02:49:06,960
investigators and other ex employees

3404
02:49:12,960 --> 02:49:09,490
they say that much of what they

3405
02:49:13,860 --> 02:49:12,970
uncovered was not even revealed to the

3406
02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:13,870
United States

3407
02:49:19,100 --> 02:49:16,150
government which was footing the six

3408
02:49:22,200 --> 02:49:19,110
hundred and eighty six million dollar

3409
02:49:25,500 --> 02:49:22,210
contracting bill and that was until

3410
02:49:29,460 --> 02:49:25,510
early this year after an auditor started

3411
02:49:32,430 --> 02:49:29,470
to ask questions and then the

3412
02:49:36,180 --> 02:49:32,440
investigators were fired abruptly this

3413
02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:36,190
past March 12th just two months ago and

3414
02:49:40,520 --> 02:49:39,010
immediately flown out of Iraq they say

3415
02:49:44,880 --> 02:49:40,530
that they had been looking into

3416
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:44,890
timesheet fraud allegations and were set

3417
02:49:51,150 --> 02:49:47,110
to interview company managers whom they

3418
02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:51,160
considered suspects this is not only is

3419
02:49:59,551 --> 02:49:53,530
this of outrage when one of the stories

3420
02:50:02,011 --> 02:49:59,561
that was reported that one of the f-16s

3421
02:50:04,500 --> 02:50:02,021
were brought in like 36 or 39 planes so

3422
02:50:07,770 --> 02:50:04,510
they're parked there there was a sally

3423
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:07,780
port driver in a truck

3424
02:50:16,320 --> 02:50:12,010
drunk driving across the tarmac at night

3425
02:50:19,950 --> 02:50:16,330
didn't see the f16 locked up his brakes

3426
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:19,960
and there's 45 foot skid marks on the

3427
02:50:25,650 --> 02:50:22,720
tarmac going all the way up to the side

3428
02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:25,660
of this f-16 dude almost crashed into

3429
02:50:35,450 --> 02:50:30,640
the f-16 because he was drunk how crazy

3430
02:50:38,160 --> 02:50:35,460
is this a 700 million dollar contract

3431
02:50:41,700 --> 02:50:38,170
unbelievable the entire story is is

3432
02:50:46,700 --> 02:50:41,710
crazy and it's not going to end here on

3433
02:50:50,040 --> 02:50:46,710
this show now have you ever been to uh

3434
02:50:52,430 --> 02:50:50,050
have you ever been to Washington DC have

3435
02:50:55,650 --> 02:50:52,440
you ever been to the National Mall I

3436
02:50:58,230 --> 02:50:55,660
have been there a few times and you get

3437
02:51:00,900 --> 02:50:58,240
a map when you go there you get a map of

3438
02:51:05,761 --> 02:51:00,910
the of the mall and and you look and

3439
02:51:07,980 --> 02:51:05,771
there was a ring of museums there if

3440
02:51:10,320 --> 02:51:07,990
there's a few Smithsonian's you have the

3441
02:51:14,130 --> 02:51:10,330
arid space you have the Library of

3442
02:51:16,020 --> 02:51:14,140
Congress and just art and sages museum

3443
02:51:20,761 --> 02:51:16,030
after museum after museum

3444
02:51:24,390 --> 02:51:20,771
well that vast grossed a grove of growth

3445
02:51:27,480 --> 02:51:24,400
of grove of museums stretching across

3446
02:51:31,230 --> 02:51:27,490
the fringes of the National Mall is a

3447
02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:31,240
got to get a brand new edition but it's

3448
02:51:40,560 --> 02:51:35,170
a bit different it is the Museum of the

3449
02:51:44,011 --> 02:51:40,570
Bible just three blocks south of the

3450
02:51:46,500 --> 02:51:44,021
Capitol it's a privately funded museum

3451
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and it's going to open this November now

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sit down and listen to me kids the 500

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02:52:00,421 --> 02:51:54,960
million dollar eight story museum is

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financed entirely by private funds the

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museum's five central exhibit floors

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02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:08,200
will house check this 40,000 biblical

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02:52:13,950 --> 02:52:10,750
and religious artifacts including

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02:52:16,261 --> 02:52:13,960
portions of the Dead Sea Scrolls Bibles

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02:52:18,810 --> 02:52:16,271
once belonging to Babe Ruth and Elvis

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02:52:22,381 --> 02:52:18,820
Presley and of course the very special

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02:52:26,250 --> 02:52:22,391
lunar Bible the first Bible to travel to

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space now it only gets better the first

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02:52:30,540 --> 02:52:28,360
exhibit to arrive at the museum is a

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three thousand two hundred pound

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02:52:36,750 --> 02:52:33,130
full-scale replica of the original

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02:52:40,500 --> 02:52:36,760
Liberty Bell gifted to the museum by dr.

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02:52:44,040 --> 02:52:40,510
Peter lil back founder of the Providence

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02:52:45,961 --> 02:52:44,050
forum because of its size the replica

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02:52:48,480 --> 02:52:45,971
had to be lowered into the building

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which is still undergoing construction

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02:52:54,270 --> 02:52:51,940
now think about that priceless talk

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02:52:58,470 --> 02:52:54,280
about does talk about the Great Pyramid

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02:53:01,830 --> 02:52:58,480
for a second ah I won't but it is Steve

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02:53:04,950 --> 02:53:01,840
green though I want to talk about the

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museum's founder and of course the

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02:53:11,461 --> 02:53:08,190
president of Hobby Lobby

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02:53:14,580 --> 02:53:11,471
that's right that's who's building this

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02:53:18,860 --> 02:53:14,590
museum and his father David who have

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02:53:21,570 --> 02:53:18,870
contributed the bulk of the items why

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02:53:24,390 --> 02:53:21,580
over the last five years the green

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02:53:27,720 --> 02:53:24,400
collection of Bible and religious

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02:53:30,961 --> 02:53:27,730
artifacts has grown into the world's

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02:53:36,810 --> 02:53:30,971
largest private collection of biblical

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02:53:40,950 --> 02:53:36,820
texts and artifacts Hobby Lobby a 500

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02:53:47,519 --> 02:53:40,960
million dollar eight story museum

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02:53:51,630 --> 02:53:47,529
three blocks from the capital I just I I

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02:53:54,809 --> 02:53:51,640
just can't believe it I'm the mall right

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02:53:56,910 --> 02:53:54,819
there so there you go now I talked about

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02:54:01,530 --> 02:53:56,920
this last week and so before I let you

3490
02:54:03,330 --> 02:54:01,540
go I just got to share this with you

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02:54:05,610 --> 02:54:03,340
because it is tasty

3492
02:54:11,070 --> 02:54:05,620
doesn't get any tastier than this my

3493
02:54:14,550 --> 02:54:11,080
friends before Mexican drug lord Joaquin

3494
02:54:16,620 --> 02:54:14,560
el chapo guzman was captured last year

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02:54:20,429 --> 02:54:16,630
and extradited to the United States this

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02:54:22,920 --> 02:54:20,439
past January as reported last week on

3497
02:54:25,410 --> 02:54:22,930
this program he was believed to have

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02:54:28,469 --> 02:54:25,420
accumulated a fortune in drug profits

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02:54:31,860 --> 02:54:28,479
and US authorities claim his 30-year

3500
02:54:37,979 --> 02:54:31,870
criminal career garnered around fourteen

3501
02:54:41,820 --> 02:54:37,989
billion dollars in cash now he was yeah

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02:54:43,889 --> 02:54:41,830
I think Guzman at one point I could be

3503
02:54:45,689 --> 02:54:43,899
wrong here this is my memory

3504
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:45,699
I think Guzman was on the like the

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02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:49,120
Forbes 400 richest people in the world I

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02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:52,330
think he made the list right now and he

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02:54:54,929 --> 02:54:54,250
was untouchable the cartel was

3508
02:54:58,110 --> 02:54:54,939
untouchable

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02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:58,120
he had plantations and ranches and he

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02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:00,399
had the zoo and he had llamas in the

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02:55:05,700 --> 02:55:01,930
front yard remember all of those sort

3512
02:55:08,370 --> 02:55:05,710
white tigers in all of his action all of

3513
02:55:12,300 --> 02:55:08,380
his money and the last week Ted Cruz

3514
02:55:16,590 --> 02:55:12,310
came out and said he wanted his money to

3515
02:55:19,679 --> 02:55:16,600
build the wall right well it has come

3516
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:19,689
out today that Mexican attorney general

3517
02:55:27,090 --> 02:55:23,680
Raul Cervantes says and I'm quoting here

3518
02:55:31,889 --> 02:55:27,100
as of today United States authorities

3519
02:55:36,430 --> 02:55:31,899
have not found even one dollar of El

3520
02:55:43,211 --> 02:55:40,470
did you hear what I just said not $1

3521
02:55:47,591 --> 02:55:43,221
Mexican authorities said that they have

3522
02:55:51,661 --> 02:55:47,601
only found minor assets of the notorious

3523
02:55:54,281 --> 02:55:51,671
drug kingpin how quick they fall right

3524
02:55:56,351 --> 02:55:54,291
the biggest drug cartel in the world

3525
02:55:58,720 --> 02:55:56,361
everything coming across but just

3526
02:56:00,791 --> 02:55:58,730
truckloads and truckloads of cash and

3527
02:56:04,661 --> 02:56:00,801
all of this money and expense and land

3528
02:56:08,680 --> 02:56:04,671
and property and AB and now none of it

3529
02:56:12,970 --> 02:56:08,690
is there somebody explained to me the

3530
02:56:17,261 --> 02:56:12,980
reality of this where is the money where

3531
02:56:19,241 --> 02:56:17,271
is the money somewhere somewhere whether

3532
02:56:21,101 --> 02:56:19,251
it's part of its hearing United States

3533
02:56:24,341 --> 02:56:21,111
part of it is in Mexico but somewhere

3534
02:56:28,180 --> 02:56:24,351
there are pallets of hundred dollar

3535
02:56:31,751 --> 02:56:28,190
bills pallets of unspent money pallets

3536
02:56:36,251 --> 02:56:31,761
of unloaded money that cash is somewhere

3537
02:56:38,921 --> 02:56:36,261
and they haven't found one single dollar

3538
02:56:42,220 --> 02:56:38,931
who do you believe who do you actually

3539
02:56:44,921 --> 02:56:42,230
believe here this is fade to black

3540
02:56:47,321 --> 02:56:44,931
this concludes another episode I want to

3541
02:56:49,961 --> 02:56:47,331
thank the one and only Trisha Eastman

3542
02:56:51,811 --> 02:56:49,971
what a conversation tonight you know and

3543
02:56:54,371 --> 02:56:51,821
I say it every night what a conversation

3544
02:56:57,881 --> 02:56:54,381
but you know what that was the show that

3545
02:57:00,761 --> 02:56:57,891
you asked for you got it it was amazing

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02:57:04,390 --> 02:57:00,771
Thank You Trisha easement her website is

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02:57:11,591 --> 02:57:09,501
me on the bunker damn clicking buttons

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02:57:16,511 --> 02:57:14,541
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02:57:19,541 --> 02:57:16,521
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02:57:24,731 --> 02:57:21,921
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02:57:35,381 --> 02:57:33,171
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02:57:42,941 --> 02:57:41,511
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02:57:44,621 --> 02:57:42,951
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02:58:01,511 --> 02:57:58,730
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